Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2017/Candidates/Alex Shih

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Strong oppose

I wonder if the candidate stands by his choice of words here? --John (talk) 19:12, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@John: John, with all due respect, I personally wouldn't issue ultimatum to another editor and starts counting down as I speak, even if I was being libelously attacked. There are two things I thought I was fairly clear in that comment, 1) The comment was about the situation 2) The intention was to seek opinion. I don't like to use the expression "I stand by my words/comments/decision", as I am always open to criticism, but I hope you can read my comment from my perspective, thanks. Alex Shih (talk) 19:21, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

So even bearing in mind WP:ASPERSIONS, and that what we were talking about an unevidenced allegation at AN/I that I had made a "clearly-bad block, part of a long-term pattern of bullying and bad blocks", you think I was being inflammatory to ask for evidence within 24 hours? Did you make any comment or request to the editor making that baseless allegation? Which is worse, a slander or the victim of the slander asking for a retraction? I too stand utterly by my actions from that episode, and I recall that Drmies hatted that part of the discussion and agreed with my (pretty uncontroversial) point that proper evidence needs to be provided for such a claim. It never was. Another point; was closing the same discussion you had taken such a biased part in a good idea, do you reckon? Do you make a habit of such closes? --John (talk) 19:47, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@John: John, if you are unwilling to read/accept what I wrote above (such as the comment was about the situation and my explicit distaste for the expression "stand by"), I am not sure what else to say. I expressed my perspective, and you can disagree with it. About your second point, the answer is in the my closing rationale you have linked to. Thank you. Alex Shih (talk) 20:08, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am willing to read it, and I have done so. If you were not referring to my actions in that talk page discussion, but to the general situation, what were you referring to? You didn't comment on the other editor's actions, did you? Did you even look at them? That speaks to bias. Closing a discussion you had taken a non-neutral part in and mentioning WP:IAR in your close, and using the edit summary slightly controversial closing; that's something you would stand by too? --John (talk) 20:32, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

John, I remember seeing that and Alex, it wasn't perfectly clear to me either what you meant, but in that thread John was being called some bad words, unjustly. Drmies (talk) 00:00, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Alex Shih and Drmies. I cannot support an arbitrator who thinks this is acceptable behaviour. --John (talk) 13:50, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]