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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 5, 2019.

Blazing dragon

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 19#Blazing dragon

Ledi Gaga

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 04:06, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Unhelpful mispelling. The redirect was created as transliterated Cyrillic (and thus WP:FORRED). — the Man in Question (in question) 04:47, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep as a plausible misspelling per the previous discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 10:40, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    How is this a plausible misspelling? As one user commented in the previous discussion, "It is hard to imagine a person who doesn't know the spelling of the word 'Lady'"; and if someone was uncertain, ledi hardly seems like a plausible guess. — the Man in Question (in question) 08:21, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 19:44, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. It's hard so see this as a "plausible" misspelling. PC78 (talk) 21:49, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Double typo, implausible.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 04:48, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete sounds like a parody name. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:22, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Paul mc cartney

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 15:00, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unhelpful spacing and Pandora's Box. — the Man in Question (in question) 04:15, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Google shows that this is a spacing that is used, making it a plausible search term. Speaking as someone who also has a "Mc" surname, seeing it spaced is not unusual from those who are unfamiliar with English-language surname conventions but are used to other conventions with multiple surnames. Finally, WP:PANDORA is an essay that is incompatible with WP:OTHERSTUFF and that precedent is generally not a thing - whether this is a good or bad redirect has no impact on whether other redirects are good or bad. Thryduulf (talk) 11:13, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, also catches searches for the not-too unreasonable "Paul Mc Cartney". —Kusma (t·c) 18:49, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Delete about as unlikely as Paul Mac Cartney. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:33, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I can't see how the search engine suggestions would not provide the correct name as soon as the person types in "Mc".ZXCVBNM (TALK) 07:31, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Che Güevara

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The result of the discussion was keep. There seems to be agreement that this alternative spelling has enough usage for a keep. (non-admin closure) ComplexRational (talk) 13:39, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A spelling that would only be typed by a Spanish speaker, and yet a spelling that would not be used by a Spanish speaker, as it would be obviously incorrect per the pronunciation. (An umlauted ü in Spanish means it is pronounced, whereas the u in Guevara is not pronounced.) — the Man in Question (in question) 04:05, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment I'm on the fence about this one, as there are lots and lots of google hits for this spelling, all referring to the same person, so it's not an implausible search term at all. However, nearly all the results are in a Spanish language context (particularly in Chilean sources it seems) so the nomination statement is clearly incorrect that a Spanish speaker would never use this spelling, but it does get a few English results so it's not exclusively a FORRED issue. Thryduulf (talk) 11:36, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Keep per the reasoning in Thryduulf's comment, as it is evidence that this spelling is used both in English and a relevant language (Spanish). signed, Rosguill talk 19:46, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I can't imagine someone typing it in with the umlaut as opposed to not. Unhelpful redirect.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 07:45, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I'm finding a lot of sources spelling it that way. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  13:11, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Capajebo

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 15#Capajebo

Air France Flight 4590 victims

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was already deleted by Deathphoenix per WP:G7. PC78 (talk) 18:29, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target (including possible alternate spellings such as Götz). According to this article, people by these names were killed in the crash, but if it's not mentioned in the article I don't think there's a reason to keep the redirects. signed, Rosguill talk 17:32, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Agree - no reason to keep the redirect - Ahunt (talk) 17:37, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree - I created the two redirects in order to list the notable people killed in the crash in this list article. I can see your point that redirecting persons to a target that does not mention them is pointless. Mill 1 (talk) 18:10, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Lingvo

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 04:04, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FORRED, no reason to redirect Esperanto for language to Language. Based on an internet search, there also appear to be a handful of companies and products called Lingvo which may be notable. signed, Rosguill talk 17:27, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: It was created alongside Varsovio and Moskvo. —Yours sincerely, Soumyabrata T⁄S 17:30, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Chances are low that native speakers of Esperanto will unwittingly stumble into English WP and look up for "Lingvo". –Austronesier (talk) 19:17, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Austronesier: I don't think there are any native speakers of Esperanto. . .. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  13:19, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Mr. Guye: Well, chances will be even lower then...but seriously, there are L1-speakers documented in the literature, viz. children of Esperantist parents. – Austronesier (talk) 14:50, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Christine Bass

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:39, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Christine Bass and James Boeckle are former teachers at Cherry Hill High School West (see here), with no potential notability and no usefulness as a redirect. Alansohn (talk) 17:22, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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James Boeckle

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:39, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Christine Bass and James Boeckle are former teachers at Cherry Hill High School West (see here), with no potential notability and no usefulness as a redirect. Alansohn (talk) 17:21, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Shigehiro Yamaguchi

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:40, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is an actor who doesn't have an article, and their only mention in Wikipedia is in the article of a different film. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:17, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete both. The former was a short article until 2011 when it was redirected as non-notable; while it may be better to undo the redirect and deal with it as an article via Prod or AfD that would probably be overly bureaucratic and in any case my !vote would be the same. The only metion on Wikipedia is in the cast list at Cult (film) but I don't see how a redirect would be useful. Google search favours a professor from Nagoya University with the same name so I think these would be better off as red links. PC78 (talk) 18:44, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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2019 European Judo Championships – Women's 57 kg

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 12#2019 European Judo Championships – Women's 57 kg

Portal:Prisons

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:40, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Target is too broad. None of the 30 selected articles in the target portal are about a prison or prisons. The only one which comes even close is Portal:Crime/Selected article/30, which is about Prisoner's dilemma ... and that's about game theory in interrogation, not about prisons. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:32, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. I created this redirect to replace a deleted portal, but its original more precise target has also been replaced by a redirect. Certes (talk) 14:26, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note I've added Portal:Prison to this discussion because they should have the same result. -- Tavix (talk) 17:01, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Battle Royale character redirects

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:40, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Minor fictional characters that aren't mentioned in the target article or anywhere else in Wikipedia. —Xezbeth (talk) 09:53, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as WP:FANCRUFT.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 07:46, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all. The first two refer to a character who apparenly is only mentioned and not seen. The third was a short unsourced stub until 2009 but was never merged into the list and clearly refers to a very minor character with little dialogue. PC78 (talk) 18:52, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Portal:Corsica

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:41, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect target is far too broad: Portal:France contains almost nothing about Corsica.

This page was a still-born attempt to create a portal (here's the last non-redirected version). It was redirect in 2016 by User:DexDor. DexDor was right to identify it as a useless page, but it would have been better to just delete it than to redirect it. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:37, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Iirc I'd previously taken such portals to MFD, but it'd turn into a discussion about whether (full) deletion or conversion to a redirect (e.g. to "preserve page history") was best and in at least one case the MFD closed as convert to redirect. "just delete" suggests that deleting (i.e. taking to MFD) is less work than redirecting which is probably incorrect. DexDor (talk) 12:00, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I fear you are probably right about the less work thing, DexDor. As we have seen at to many MFDs, them is a clique of editors who fetishises the preservation of almost any unread, abandoned junk portal. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:51, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete (and remove any inlinks from articles, categories etc). DexDor (talk) 12:00, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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鉄拳

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Tekken. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 10:02, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Translates to "iron fist", which is not solely a name used for the series. Delete per WP:FORRED with the actual Iron Fist page. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:19, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to the more general Tekken, since that article lists 鉄拳 as the Japanese title. If there is anything else called 鉄拳, then a disambiguation page can be created. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:42, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
A disambiguation already exists for 鉄拳, it's Iron Fist. However, this is not Japanese Wikipedia. Iron Fist isn't particularly a Japanese phrase. FORRED applies here since the proper target would be Iron Fist, not Tekken.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 21:50, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Tekken per WP:FORRED since the subject originated from Japan, so this has affinity with the Japanese language by default. Steel1943 (talk) 19:48, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Recurring weapons and items from The Legend of Zelda series

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 04:03, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as WP:GAMEGUIDE implausible redirect. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:03, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The Legend of Zelda (film)

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix (talk) 13:15, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as WP:CRYSTALBALLing. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:01, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Neutral. A rejected pitch hardly amounts to a "film" but it's also hard to see what else this could refer to. PC78 (talk) 15:19, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. As a redirect, it gets people to where they are best served: A section about films that did not come to be, which is akin to redirects that direct readers to sections of film franchise articles for sequels which have yet to go into production. Steel1943 (talk) 19:46, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep per Steel1943. Speculative on our part to suggest the film would have this title, but not wildly so. --BDD (talk) 04:02, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep; if the searcher finds a redlink, he won't know if there were no film or if we just haven't written an article yet, but the bluelink to this section tells the reader that there was no film. This section provides encyclopedic information about the concept of a Zelda film, and I can't envision anywhere else that information about such a film would be relevant. Nyttend (talk) 20:26, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The Legend of Zelda (tentative title)

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:43, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Does not refer to anything specific, overly vague. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:57, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Russiagate conspiracy theory

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:43, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Russiagate" is not mentioned in target article List of conspiracy theories. Meanwhile Russiagate correctly redirects to Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections, so this redirect is redundant. — JFG talk 05:56, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as redundant with just Russiagate.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:59, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as redundant and confusing. There is "Russiagate", and then there is the above conspiracy theory about it. Russiagate refers to the "allegation of a Kremlin “attack” on the United States.", IOW the subject of our articles dealing with the 2016 Russian interference. Stephen Cohen, Trump, and many of Trump's supporters are skeptics of this allegation. To them, it is not a fact that Russia interfered in the election. They claim it's a false allegation made by American and many foreign intelligence agencies. They only believe Russian intelligence and Putin, IOW they believe the guilty parties. Editors who share that view often add the word "alleged" to our articles, and we have to remove that word. If RS ever document that the Russian denials are correct, IOW that they did not interfere in the election, then the (non-existent) Russiagate conspiracy theory article would be retitled. Since it doesn't exist, this redirect is useless and muddies the waters. -- BullRangifer (talk) 14:14, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as per nomination.Theoallen1 (talk) 03:37, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Spiritual stones

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:43, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly -not- a unique concept to the Zelda series. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:48, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Weavel

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 12#Weavel

  • Keep at target. Doesn't seem compelling enough an argument to change the redirect target. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 20:18, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

San Pedro, Los Angeles, & Salt Lake RR Depot

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:44, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There are two historic depots in Riverside, California, roughly one block apart: a former Union Pacific depot and a former Santa Fe depot. The redirect is the NRHP name for the former Union Pacific depot (NHRP ID 77000326). We don't have an article about it. The history of the former Santa Fe depot is discussed, inaccurately, at Riverside–Downtown station (see Talk:Riverside–Downtown station#Prior service for explanation). The current redirect target is invalid and inaccurate; the redirect should be deleted to encourage the creation of a standalone article on the former Union Pacific depot. Mackensen (talk) 02:16, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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