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Category:Francissca Peter

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: With an already appropriate category for the the artist's albums and another for the covers of those albums (linked via the albums cat), this is an unnecessary eponymous category per WP:OCEPON. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 23:30, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Voivodes and Kings of the Gypsies

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:48, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Per main article, King of the Gypsies. Super Ψ Dro 23:13, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support -- Voivode is not an English word. I do not know if it is Romani, but I see no mention of it in main article. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:19, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename' per nom. --Just N. (talk) 19:29, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename to match parent article --Lenticel (talk) 02:09, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Welsh people of African descent

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 November 20#Category:Welsh people of African descent

Category:Convert templates

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Template Convert. bibliomaniac15 04:04, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: The current name appears to be redundant to Category:Conversion templates; however, since it seems to refer to one specific template, I suggest renaming it to be singular, as already is the case with Category:Coord template. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:39, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rename into Category:Template Convert I propose. Eponymous, and follows existing pattern. See also below. -DePiep (talk) 09:16, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom. Oppose DePiep's suggested rename as having multiple namespace prefixes in a row feels clunky. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:50, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Clunky indeed, I already noted. But the proposed name is not self-clarifying, and singular. IOW, only to understand when opening the page.
Incidentally, we recently had a TfD renaming into Category:Articles_using_Template:Track_gauge_with_unrecognized_input.
Just discovered: all subcategories use name "Template Convert ...". Eponymous. So I propose Category:Template Convert (above). -DePiep (talk) 09:16, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
An alternative naming scheme would be the one used in Category:Cards subtemplates. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:23, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Why? Nope. It's Category:Template Convert or nothing else. -DePiep (talk) 19:18, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies, my brain somehow read a colon that wasn't there into your suggested rename. I now support renaming to Category:Template Convert. Also, I've nominated Category:Cards subtemplates for deletion on grounds unrelated to its name. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:50, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No. This is what we call a discussion. The "D" in "XfD". -DePiep (talk) 19:40, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I understand the "two entries" are Ps {{Convert}} and {{Cvt}}. Indeed they are in parent Category:Conversion templates too, but that is no problem. Parent mentioning = templates that do actually convert; subcategory = templates directly related to {{Convert}} (not necessarily converting by themselves). IOW, this category is to give an overview of {{Convert}}-related templates, MOL like a help-page does. No reason to change that. The current subcategories present, Category:Convert by module documentation‎, Category:Subtemplates of Template Convert‎ serve that same purpose (though the "Subtemplates of" could be upmerged without loss of info indeed). So apart from possibly Cat:Subtemplates of .., no upmerging to be done. (btw, to consider: check uc/lc in the subcat names). All this is more clear when WP:EPONYMOUS is considered applicable & applied. -DePiep (talk) 08:02, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:1989 Tiananmen Square protests

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The result of the discussion was: Rename, falls under the speedy criterion Ymblanter (talk) 07:35, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:COMMONNAME consistency Amigao (talk) 18:01, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Deaths from cardiovascular disease

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 13:41, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
After closure I found that these had been previously deleted per consensus at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 September 15#Cardiovascular disease deaths. – Fayenatic London 21:36, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
other countries and country subdivisions
Nominator's rationale: delete, cardiovascular disease deaths are too common to be a defining characteristic. Comparable to deaths by heart failure, earlier deleted in this previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:42, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:47, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per precedent. ~~~~
    User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)     19:47, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per nom. --Just N. (talk) 19:34, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per precedent....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:48, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Causes of death are always defining. Category:Deaths_from_heart_failure should be recreated. Dimadick (talk) 18:59, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all No, hell no, causes of death are not defining characteristics (unless it is a particularly uncommon one, in which case it might be the death itself which is notable). A defining characteristic, to take the example of Caravaggio, is something like "Italian", "Baroque", or "artist"; or "[Subject] was an [adjective] [noun]...". I don't think I've ever seen anybody being described as "X was a [Foolandian] [occupations] who died of [cardiovascular disease]. So no, this is just not defining. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 16:35, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Unexplained deaths

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 05:23, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:NONDEF and WP:OCMISC, the articles have merely in common that the cause of death has not been specified. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:36, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. The category tree does not exist apart from the one category for London with articles in it, and it shouldn't be created. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 04:10, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Articles needing POV-check

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The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 22:18, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And dated subcategories

Nominator's rationale: Per merge of Template:POV check to Template:POV. This needs a separate discussion rather than being an automatic action because the category is also populated by Template:Undue weight, Template:USgovtPOV, and a few other templates. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:56, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom, helps with redundancy. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 23:19, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American women journalists

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The result of the discussion was: keep. bibliomaniac15 04:03, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: We have a category of Category:American male journalists, and it would seem more appropriate to use "female" as an adjective that modifies journalists if we're using "male" as an adjective to modify journalists in the parallel category. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 04:38, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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