Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard Raymond (pianist)

Richard Raymond (pianist)

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Nothing on this guy but articles about a student of his, fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC. Allan Nonymous (talk) 18:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Canada. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:00, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:46, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Article was unsourced, and still requires some cleanup and improvement, however the subject is notable under GNG and WP:NMUSIC, particularly criteria 1 and 9. I added a few sources found quickly from a google search. A deeper search may reveal more. Bgv. (talk) 23:11, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A competition is only "major" enough to fulfill NMUSIC #9 if it gets WP:GNG-worthy media coverage that reports its winners as news, and is not "major" enough to pass that criterion if you have to rely on its own self-published press releases because third-party coverage treating it as newsworthy is non-existent. So he hasn't been shown to pass #9 at all, and with only one real media source about him he has not yet been shown to pass #1 either. Bearcat (talk) 15:11, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad to see one article that may satisfy the WP:GNG criterion, however, we'd need more sustained coverage in order for it to actually pass WP:GNG. Allan Nonymous (talk) 16:16, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

With respect to the concern of competitions not being major, I only now noticed that the citation in the article is to the subject's self-published website, however the wins have been confirmed by other sources (e.g. [1], [2]). I'll digress that the competitions cited are not "major" enough to have their winners make the mainstream news, however the status of winning of (specifically) the Stepping Stone Competition has been cited by mainstream news sources in their determination of endorsements for young musicians (e.g. [3], [4], and less significant coverage [5]). Focusing more heavily on NMUSIC #1 and the GNG, please see 1 and 2 above, along with this news article, and this inclusion of his biography backing the claims of notability from the Quebec Contemporary Music Society. For what it's worth, his discography was aired on the radio, as demonstrated here, and here. I will plug a few of these into the article, hopefully by the time anyone is reading this. Bgv. (talk) 01:44, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:22, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]