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The result was delete. SoWhy 12:18, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

James Burn (politician)

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Appears to be an individual who is simply a local councillor who ran for a regional mayoralty and failed to retain their deposit in that election. The articles in the page are not articles which confer individual notability on to the subject. The subject is incidental to those articles. As such the subject fails the notability criteria for inclusion on Wikipedia. Sport and politics (talk) 22:34, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. Neither borough councillors nor non-winning mayoral candidates are deemed to pass WP:NPOL for those facts per se — but the depth and breadth of sourcing here is not enough to get him over WP:GNG in lieu. Of the seven sources here, three are primary sources that cannot assist notability at all, leaving us with just four pieces of reliable source media coverage — but campaign coverage falls under WP:ROUTINE, because everybody who was ever a candidate in any election anywhere could always show that much coverage. To earn a Wikipedia article, people at this level of significance have to be shown as significantly more notable than the norm for this level of significance — but nothing here shows that at all. Bearcat (talk) 06:08, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Non notable local politician, fails WP:NPOL. Yintan  23:18, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - we Wikipedians have decided that local politicians such as borough councilors are just not notable. I do not see that consensus changing anytime soon. Bearian (talk) 00:26, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Delete Green Party politicians being elected is fairly rare in most countries, so if there was something relating to that point that could be added, this piece might nudge just above notability requirements. Until that point though, he unfortunately is not significant enough to warrant an article. South Nashua (talk) 12:57, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - He's not the Mayor. Fails WP:GNG and WP:POLOUTCOMES. Me-123567-Me (talk) 21:56, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as fails to pass the bar for N Legacypac (talk) 05:48, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Withdrawn, non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 06:52, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Thin Red Line (album)

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Unsourced since creation. WP:BEFORE finds usual download, tracklisting, dicogs, eBay, Amazon, etc. Some recent articles about lead singer's recovery from stroke are only independent WP:RS coverage. No indication of chart success, airplay, or gold certification. Does not pass WP:GNG or WP:NALBUM Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:38, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn by nominator post Bearian's additions. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:04, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bearcat, not Bearian...no big worry, just clarifying. Bearcat (talk) 23:05, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

D'oh! Wrong bear-themed user name. Apologies. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:09, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep. As this is an album from the 1980s, finding electronic versions of the press that the album received would be difficult. However a search on google books gives us Is This Live?: Inside the Wild Early Years of MuchMusic by Christopher Ward, Music Express: The Rise, Fall & Resurrection of Canada's Music Magazine and Please Allow Me to Introduce Myself: Essays on Debut Albums among others. You have to search using "The Thin Red Line" +Glass Tiger, not "The Thin Red Line (album)". You get more hits across the board with this change, which indicates there's even more out there not available digitally. The album passes WP:NALBUM and it's very easy to find info on chart and sales successes (it charted well and sold well per WP:NALBUM and this can be verified through Billboard and here). It was a major label release and spawned two major hit songs, and with the handful of books I found, plus Billboard it passes WP:GNG. Sources can be added and lacking sources is not a valid reason to delete. freshacconci (✉) 21:35, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Snow keep. Obviously notable under the standards generally applied to albums. In addition to the material cited by freshacconci, this album received a best album nomination at the 1986 Juno Awards, and yielded a best new artist nomination for the band at the Grammys. [1][2] --Arxiloxos (talk) 00:25, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy keep per Arxiloxos. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 23:56, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. This is an album that was released in 1986, which means the sources needed to get it over WP:GNG would not be expected to show up on Google. However, this is the debut album by a band who were massive in their heyday, which spawned an iconic Top 10 single and at least two other more moderate hits that still to this day show up on the Jack FMs of the world once in a while (I already have a "Someday" earworm just from seeing its title, and that wasn't even the megahit) — and as noted, it got a Juno Award nomination for Album of the Year as well. So the notability is quite plainly there, and the sources needed to repair this most certainly do exist — but as expected for a 30-year-old topic, they'll be found in databases rather than open web. I have a course to attend today, so I can't tackle this right away, but I'll take a spin through ProQuest when I get home this evening. Bearcat (talk) 12:43, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WP:V for these points, as well as the ones made by Freshacconci I agree would support notability. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 14:44, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Seven sources added so far from ProQuest, along with one that merely had to be pulled over from the band's article. More are coming as well — I can confirm that the album charted in RPM's album charts, as I get four pages of search results in the RPM database for it. For some reason, however, the actual chart PDFs aren't loading, so I can't verify the peak chart position yet (unfortunately, the database is stupidly structured, so the only way to actually find that is to check each individual chart one by one until you've manually determined the highest position it reached.) Those will be added once I can get through 404land. Bearcat (talk) 22:06, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

RPM chart history now added and sourced. Bearcat (talk) 22:53, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy delete under A7. Hut 8.5 20:29, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

TheMightyGamer7

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Made a page about himself, without any references. Does not appear to be notable. El cid, el campeador (talk) 19:50, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment The article was correctly tagged for speedy deletion about a minute before this AFD was opened. Uncle Roy (talk) 20:04, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades ^Godric 07:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Owen McPolin

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Notability. Lack of. TheLongTone (talk) 15:43, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: I see at least half a dozen references in Google Books, which all seem to be a paragraph or more. Unfortunately they are all in snippet view. StAnselm (talk) 19:39, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - The article reveals nothing exceptional in his career. This means the question is whether ran Apostolic Prefect is a jigh enough post to be notable without more. Not sure. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:55, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep - As Apostolic Prefect, he was the head of a diocese which would later be headed by an archbishop, and is thus listed with the bishops on the diocese web page [3]. He has some coverage, as StAnselm points out, in English language religious literature. I found and added info from two webpages with brief profiles about him in Korean (as "임 오웬"), but I'm not sure this is the best transliteration of his name and wonder if more information could be found about him in that language. Smmurphy^(Talk) 15:06, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - held a then minor office; nothing to indicate notabilty. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 14:51, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. No consensus after two relistings. (non-admin closure) feminist 00:59, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie Heat

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Marginal example of a not-yet-notable composer/producer; assertions and claimsseem to be in conflict with WP:NOTCONTAGIOUS, since he does not appear to be notable in his own right Orange Mike | Talk 20:50, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep WP:MUSICBIO #8 says: "Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award.". "Platinum selling" has also been sourced. I have now sourced three grammy noms. In addition, while this is a relatively new producer, I think there is more than enough coverage to meet the WP:GNG, albiet not as much detailed coverage as i would like. But there is some. I have added several citatiosn and a critical response section to the article. DES ^(talk) 23:36, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note that in the music field WP:NOTCONTAGIOUS does not seem to be fully applied, since WP:MUSICBIO #6 also says: "Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles." That is pretty much pure inherited notability, in a guideline. DES ^(talk) 00:01, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • comment - DES: do the Grammy databases list Heat as the nominee; or did he just work on an album that was nominated? I've noticed a tendency to treat anybody who ever touched a project, from the singer to the session musicians to the producer(s) to the sound engineer, as "Grammy-nominated" if the project gets a nomination (it seems to be worse in music than anywhere else). --Orange Mike | Talk 00:06, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • That is a reasonable question, and I am not entirely sure of the answer. I can say that his name was included in the track list of a nominated album, and that a source (now cited in the article) says that he "received three grammy noms for his work" on the album. That is a bit more than being the sound engineer. I still maintain that even without the award nom, this passes the GNG, although I would prefer a few better sources to the more numerous but less detailed ones that I have found so far.DES ^(talk) 00:17, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      • Only Kanye is named on the Grammy page listing the nomination for The Life of Pablo. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:15, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - because he is "an extra". But, I think it needs mentioned - as more and more entities move all content to the internet (including legitimate sources that allow for paid ads that look like articles), that WP really needs to step their game up with what does and does not qualify. This subject may meet the requirements simply based on the fact that there are enough "sources" that mention his name. Kellymoat (talk) 13:19, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • comment - mere mentions do not qualify a subject; sources must contain substantial discussion of the subject, not merely mention them in a table or list, or contain a single sentence that calls out their name. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:01, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep, nomination withdrawn, no comments in favor of deletion. . Beeblebrox (talk) 17:48, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ravn Alaska destinations

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Contested proposed deletion. Reason for proposal is that Wikipedia is not a directory, reason for removal is that this is "standard content for airlines" however I don't believe it is the case that we have a seperate article listing every single place an airline flies to. Hubs? Sure. Whole other countries? Makes sense. Every little town in Alaska that this regional provider flies to? Not so much. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:18, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I removed it from that delsort list. It is already included in the Alaska list, of which the US list is the "parent". Beeblebrox (talk) 20:14, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Every thorough airline article of which I'm aware has a section for "destinations", and most of these lead to a spinoff article with a complete list. For example Southwest Airlines destinations, American Airlines destinations, Delta Air Lines destinations, etc. Category:Lists of airline destinations contains 439 such lists (plus a few more in subcategories). Why delete this one at the cost of completeness, just because the airports are smaller than usual? --Arxiloxos (talk) 20:23, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Those others should probably go as well. The issue isn't the size of the airports, it's the appearance of Wikipedia becoming a sales catalog for these airlines. Explaining what region they operate in and where the hubs are is more than sufficient information for a general-knowledge encyclopedia. Listing every destination crosses over into a catalog. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:35, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pages in Category:Lists of airline destinations, snow-kept in 2015. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Airlines destinations, also a group nomination of all such lists, kept in 2007. There are probably others. postdlf (talk) 01:38, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I must admit I was unaware of those previous discussions. I think AFD might not be the correct forum and a broader RFC may be in order. Therefore I withdraw this nomination and since nobody else has commented in favor of deletion we can call it a speedy keep. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:48, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. SoWhy 12:15, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Olive Boutique Hotel

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fails WP:CORP. created by a one edit User with booking.com and tripadvisor as sources it looks suspiciously like an advert. Gnews comes up with same named hotel in Puerto Rico which may be notable LibStar (talk) 17:34, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Yet another non notable business using Wikipedia for free advertising . No secondary independent sources except trip advisor and booking sites as references. Ajf773 (talk) 05:21, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Plainly promotional and non-notable with no RS's. --Lockley (talk) 04:58, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. Meets none of the criteria for an article. User should consider adding to Wikivoyage instead. Greenman (talk) 06:27, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete doesn't meet GNG Chetsford (talk) 16:24, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Jupitus Smart 17:11, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Soccer War (book)

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No evidence of any notability for this book. The only reference has a void URL and can't be checked. Searches yield nothing of any merit. Fails WP:GNG  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   16:43, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep Massive number of laudatory reviews, here's the new archive search I ran [4]. the archive is behind a paywall, I don't know it that search can be seen by editors without access to Proquest. But in all events, the book is notable, article needs to be sourced. E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:41, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Note that many reviews come up on a simple google search of Kapuściński + "the soccer war" [5]. Same search on gNews [6]. E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:43, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• And stuff like this [7]. Article needs an editor.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:48, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, meets WP:GNG and WP:NBOOK, plenty of review available including Publishers Weekly, Kirkus Reviews, Booklist, Library Journal Bamboo by William Boyd, London Review of Books. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:35, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep – Passes WP:BOOKCRIT and WP:GNG: [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14] (subscription required). North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 00:32, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete and redirect to Glory Days (Little Mix album). Page protection can be requested at WP:RFPP iff required. SoWhy 12:16, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You Gotta Not (Little Mix song)

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Probably fails WP:NSONGS, was redirected by Livelikemusic last week under that rationale. A few blogs (but no major publications) covered this on its release as a promotional single. It did, however, chart (at number 61 in the UK; and in two other countries). Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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• Delete Raritydash (talk) 22:38, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nomination. livelikemusic talk! 01:05, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Nothing notable here. Ss112 03:47, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom and others. --Lockley (talk) 05:30, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete fails WP:NSONGS as per nom. Bennv3771 (talk) 10:46, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Get Weird to Glory Days seems appropriate or delete per above comments. I would be fine with either decision. Aoba47 (talk) 17:57, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Get Weird. Carbrera (talk) 18:31, 2 June 2017 (UTC).[reply]
  • Do you mean redirect to Glory Days? Because that is a song from "Glory Days", not "Get Weird". Raritydash (talk) 23:32, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I would support redirection to Glory Days (Little Mix album) + page protection. Pinging Aoba47 and Carbrera. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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• Thank you for pointing this out for me. Aoba47 (talk) 16:40, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• 'Redirect - Fails NSONG, redirect to the album. - SummerPhD^v2.0 13:31, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Spindrift (band). Delete !votes do not preclude the option of redirecting, so that's what I'm going to do. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 19:02, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Zachary Hansen

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Non-notable member of some local bands (the only one with its own article, Spindrift, itself seems to be of questionable notability). The references currently in the article don't include anything resembling a reliable source, and even more striking, none of them even mention Zachary Hansen. I spent some time looking for sources on my own and couldn't find anything that could help to satisfy WP:GNG. Also, the article creator shares the same name as the subject's former web company, pointing to the likelihood of a conflict of interest. Camerafiend (talk) 14:21, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. No claim to notability, and very likely promotional, per nom. --Lockley (talk) 05:25, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete doesn't meet GNG Chetsford (talk) 16:24, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Spindrift (band) per WP:ATD-R. I cannot find anything establishing his notability as an individual but his name might be a useful search term and he is mentioned on the band's page. Regards SoWhy 12:14, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Spindrift (band) as suggested by SoWhy. Not enough independent notability to warrant a standalone article. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:30, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. SoWhy 12:12, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Excel Capital Management

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No evidence of notability. Relevant references are peripheral mentions or blogs, often written by the organisation itself or by its staff. Nothing here convinces me about notability. Fails WP:GNG  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   13:04, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Fails WP:CORPDEPTH and GNG. -- HighKing⁺⁺ 00:43, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete doesn't meet GNG Chetsford (talk) 16:24, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Primefac (talk) 13:34, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lil Tracy

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Non-notable hip-hop artist with coverage only in passing mention, blogs and otherwise non-rs and article sourced almost entirely to soundcloud and YouTube. In fact, the most significant coverage I can find of Tracy is in reference to him pissing off a former KKK leader. May be a case of WP:TOOSOON CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 12:21, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete : Per nomination. Fails WP:MUSICBIO Coderzombie (talk) 12:33, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. I think this is too soon. He was featured on a couple of tracks that got Pitchfork reviews ([15], [16]), and he garnered a paragraph in this article, but that's about all the coverage I can find at this point. He may get there but I don't think he has yet. Camerafiend (talk) 19:39, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - might be a case of WP:TOOSOON, but currently, while there is some limited coverage, it is not of the breadth and in-depth type needed to establish they pass WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:32, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Since an AFD has been opened for the other page, I'll let what happens there happen. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 19:01, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

IV Life...

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Non-notable album by non-notable musician. When the only half-reasonable reference I can find is a Huffpo piece, it should probably be deleted as A9, but that's already been contested, hence why we're here. Primefac (talk) 12:15, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• (Speedy) delete the fact that notable artists appeared on this album doesn't nullify the fact that the artist does not have his own page. If I were the creator I would have started with the artist's page and then moved on his albums. Domdeparis (talk) 14:21, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• still Speedy Delete it because the artist does not have their own page and therefore it fits one of the CSDs exactly. I appreciate the note on my talk page about the decline and that Primefac beat me to nominating it here. Legacypac (talk) 16:35, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Speedy Delete: No evidence of notability. --Guy Macon (talk) 23:14, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. Not eligible for speedy deletion. A9 requires that there be no claim of significance, and contributions by multiple notable artists is enough of a claim of significance to survive A9. A9 is a special exception to A7's exclusions; the lack of a claim of significance is the important criterion; the lack of an artist article comes into play only when there is no claim of significance. It's not a balancing matter, any valid claim of significance "outweighs" the absence of an artist article. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. (talk) 10:41, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's a mixtape, so none of the other artists did anything to make the tape. Legacypac (talk) 10:48, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Did you appear here following my contribs?Winged Blades ^Godric 11:17, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wings tagged it CSD. Wolfowitz removed the tag, then posted here. Legacypac (talk) 11:27, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Legacypac:--Prob. you mis-understood my question due to the wrong indentation.This was meant for Hullaballoo.See our recent interactions!Winged Blades ^Godric 11:49, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Godric replaced a speedy after it had been declined already, a generally improper editing practice I've been addressing for years. My comment here is mostly directed to Domdeparis's !vote above, which seriously misconstrues speedy deletion standards. But I don't expect much beyond groundless abuse from an editor who labelled me a "half-literate myopic" on my talk page this morning. As for Legacypac's substantive point, at this point the article claims this is a legitimate album with a number of notable guest performers, and that's the claim speedy proposals are measured against. If the claim isn't transparently false, but requires investigation, it's not speediable. That's why obvious hoaxes can be speedied, but clever ones go to AFD. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. (talk) 12:05, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Update I've found and added the sister album The Glass Ceiling Project to the nomination as it is the same artist, same issues exactly. Ping previous voters User:Primefac, Guy Macon,talk, and CSD tagger Godric please confirm your vote for the other page. Legacypac (talk) 12:55, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And I've removed it. I can understand the intention, but it's just procedurally bad timing. It's one thing to add a second page a day or two after the nomination was created, but it's another to add a new page to a week-old discussion and force it to be relisted. Primefac (talk) 13:21, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Good call. Had not realized we were so close to a week. I've nom'd the other page here Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_Glass_Ceiling_Project Legacypac (talk) 15:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - both, if enough former !voters come back and endorse the addition by Legacypac. Fails WP:GNG and nowhere near comes close to meeting WP:NALBUM or WP:NMUSIC. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:35, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Both for the same reasons posted previously. Should we put an AfD notice pointing here on the new page? --Guy Macon (talk) 14:20, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • This might be an IAR situation, because we're already at the IAR stage by adding a page a week later. Adding a notice and then deleting the page an hour or two later (which is likely, given that there are only 12 old open AFDs) seems rather pointless. Primefac (talk) 14:39, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've nom'd the sister page for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_Glass_Ceiling_Project Guy Macon talk talk, and CSD tagger Godric Legacypac (talk) 15:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. SoWhy 12:09, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Eusebio Martinelli

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I do not think the career as reported here shows notability as either WP:PROF or WP:CREATIVE. I declined a speedy, because the recordings and book are a claim to some significance. DGG ( talk ) 10:14, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per nom. No claim to notability. --Lockley (talk) 05:23, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Does not pass WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG Coderzombie (talk) 13:44, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete doesn't meet GNG Chetsford (talk) 16:24, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 11:43, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kacper Laskoś

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WP:NOTSTATS. Nothing can be said about him; there is a short article at [17] but it pretty much states he is a youth debutant in Extraklasa, gives few quotes and stats/bio details (born in, joined Football team X in 200XX, etc.). During this training he had a small accident, and he was nervous during his debut game. This clearly fails WP:GNG. Before someone argues that he passes (or not) Wikipedia:Notability (sports), let me quote from that policy: "Q: If a sports figure meets the criteria specified in a sports-specific notability guideline, does this mean he/she does not have to meet the general notability guideline? A: No, the subject must still eventually meet the general notability guideline. ". So unless we can show he meets GNG, well, NOSTATS etc. Meeting NSPORTS or not is about as irrelevant as whether he has a Polish Wikipedia article (which incidentally he does not have, too). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:51, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep - meets WP:NFOOTBALL, he has played in a fully-professional league. GiantSnowman 21:05, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • And the little part about him failing GNG and NFOOTBALL defaulting to GNG...? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:45, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Passes NFOOTY, has played senior international football, in a fully professional league or in a match in the competition proper (i.e. not qualifying rounds) of a cup competition which involved two teams both from FPLs. Fenix down (talk) 12:12, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Having played in the Polish top flight, he meets WP:NFOOTY, and given his age does not meet the usual criteria for ignoring that guideline when only just met. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:42, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: per WP:NFOOTY. --Guy Macon (talk) 23:13, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. SoWhy 12:09, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rafal Hanusowski

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200+ google hits, nothing in news, no significant awards/descriptions of works, WP:TOOSOON at best - currently fails WP:CREATIVE. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:35, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete No indication that the subjects meets any of the notability criteria in WP:CREATIVE. Mduvekot (talk) 15:14, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – badly referenced blp with no significant coverage in news or books, fails WP:GNG and WP:CREATIVE. — Quasar G. 09:57, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. Clear case of WP:TOOSOON. He is an emerging artist, definitely failing WP:CREATIVE for now. No prejudice for recreation in future in case more notability is established. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 09:10, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. SoWhy 12:08, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nessex

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A WP:SPA The links listed for proof of verification are broken and not of a celebrity standard for wikipedia. Seems like they are using this page for promotional use not facts on how they have changed the industry from a celebrity stand point. Fails WP:CORPDEPTH, WP:GNG. 24.9.98.30 (talk) 1:58, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

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• Delete. Coverage seems very niche. Seems to fail WP:MUSICBIO. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:38, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as non-notable per nom. Edit history of original editor shows promotional, um, motive. --Lockley (talk) 06:03, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Merge proposals etc. may be evaluated at talk page. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades ^Godric 07:48, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2017 Lesotho Defence Force helicopter crash

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To quote the person who Proded this article- "No evidence that this accident is noteworthy for a stand-alone article, helicopter crashes are not rare particularly military operated ones. Really needs to be the cause of death of a wiki notable person or another notable feature to have an article." This crash is tragic but not notable. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 17:31, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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delete per nom.Icewhiz (talk) 18:19, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am the author of the article, and as I explained on its talk page, I fail to see where we have an explicit requirement that such articles need to be 'the cause of death of a wiki notable person or another notable feature' - that seems vague to say the least. If you look at our 2017 and 2016 articles for aircraft incidents, you will see quite a few that are just AS notable as this one. I understand why private planes and helicopters don't fit the shoe, but in this case it's a country with a very small air force, and one where accidents don't generally happen that often, so there is some notability to it IMO. The other articles serve as a precedent, so unless there is a specific rule that I am missing, we either have to enforce the same rules to all older articles and lose a LOT of them, or come up with some sort of compromise. Just my two cents. Skycycle (talk) 22:04, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The standard is WP:AIRCRASH and precedents don't count for much (WP:Other stuff exists); however it being a country with a very small air force counts as another notable feature. Hawkeye7 (talk) 04:37, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As Hawkeye7 stated - see WP:AIRCRASH. As these being part of the Lesotho Defence Force - sorry, I don't see how this counts for much. The Lesotho air wing is really just a general aviation wing that isn't expected to carry out any role in a war (As Lesotho is landlocked and surrounded completely by the much larger South Africa - in any conceivable military conflict with South Africa, aviation wouldn't last for more than a day (the ground forces might do marginally better, and might be able to put up an irregular/guerrilla campaign afterwards) - it might carry out some role in an irregular conflict with local rebels, but otherwise seems to be mostly geared for regular governmental transport - it is borderline itself for an article (which it doesn't have - is included with Lesotho Defence Force - a small organization overall - as per article 3,100 personnel). Being part of a marginal, non-useful (in any organized international conflict, possible use vs. internal rebels), military of a marginal country - doesn't make this crash more notable than others - if at all less notable. Police helicopters crash all the time - if the crash isn't notable in terms of damage on the ground, specific fatalities (notable victims), or a large amount of victims (e.g. a Sikorsky CH-53 Sea Stallion or Boeing CH-47 Chinook which can lead to a high double-digit body count) - it isn't notable.Icewhiz (talk) 07:04, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep The crash of an aircraft belonging to a very small air force which resulted in multiple fatalities is likely to have lasting notability. Nick-D (talk) 23:54, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - as per Nick-D's comment the incident had a big impact on Lesotho's airforce and with the investigation ongoing there is a strong possibility the content of the article will be expanded soon. If the final discussion here is more leaning twords delete than keep, I'd advise the closing admin to please consider a Mergeing of the content of this article to the Lesotho Defence Force. Inter&anthro (talk) 13:16, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - no significant ongoing coverage, just news reports and then silence concerning the subject. It might be worth mentioning in the Lesotho Defence Force article (and I am not sure that it should be), but it certainly doesn't warrant a stand-alone article. YSSYguy (talk) 03:03, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per my statement when I proposed deletion "No evidence that this accident is noteworthy for a stand-alone article, helicopter crashes are not rare particularly military operated ones. Really needs to be the cause of death of a wiki notable person or another notable feature to have an article." Nothing has emerged since that shows anything noteworthy. MilborneOne (talk) 18:13, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete -- no societal impact or lasting significance. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:40, 12 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Keep as per Nick-D. I think it would be appropriate to include this incident in Lists_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_military_aircraft. Whilst this event probably falls fractionally short of WP:AIRCRASH, it is nevertheless brief, well written and appears adequately referenced. Whilst I'm unaware of any policy encouraging comparison of short factual articles like this one with innumerable and lengthy ones about trivial fictional characters or C-grade social media personalities, I think it just about stands up to scrutiny against them. Nick Moyes (talk) 01:49, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep or better Merge the content of this article to the Lesotho Defence Force. I think some of the arguments for deletion have a big country bias. It is significant for a small country's defense forces to be sure but it is hard to see why a single helicopter crash should have an article of its own. It will have a proper context in the Lesotho Defense Force article Elmmapleoakpine (talk) 21:37, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge to Lesotho Defence Force. It is a significant incident for the Lesotho Defence Force, but doesn't require its own article. Better to move the contents.Seaweed (talk) 12:55, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge and redirect per comments above Nördic Nightfury 13:35, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. czar 03:35, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Stavrula Gotsis

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There is some coverage here (which is why I declined the A7 speedy request) but other than that, I cannot find any substantial coverage about her (just some passing mentions in lists of physicians). Fails WP:BIO and WP:GNG. SoWhy 08:16, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I knew her personally and will be updating the article further with sources included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tgvtornado (talk • contribs) 21:26, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Strong delete. I've looked high and low, and every source points back to the obituary you mentioned already. I just don't think she is notable, or even close to being notable.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  03:45, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Too little information to support notability. The claim that she was the first female plastic surgeon in Chicago is not confirmed by the Chicago Tribune obituary[18] (the only useful source) which has her down as "one of the first" female plastic surgeons in the area. JFW | T@lk 13:57, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Wikimedia Foundation. Redirected content may be accessed through the page history. (non-admin closure) feminist 00:59, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia project

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This really doesn't seem like a notable topic on its own, especially when articles for the Wikimedia Foundation and all its reader-facing projects exist. Half of the article is about language codes. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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• Delete as a lower-quality duplicate of content at Wikimedia Foundation and List of Wikipedias. (This article's layout is poorer and sourcing is mainly to technical documents.) Might be redirected to Wikimedia Foundation but I'm not sure if that would be useful. --Colapeninsula (talk) 16:26, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect/merge Where appropriate. Some of it here, some of it to Meta. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:03, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• redirect/merge: Wikimedia Foundation seems like a good destination GretLomborg (talk) 04:56, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. SoWhy 11:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wojtek Goral

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I have hard trouble seeing how this person passes WP:MUSICBIO, through maybe someone more versed in Swedish than me can review the sources better. What I see seems to be mostly niche/in passing. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:51, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. Can not find anything that would constitute non-trivial coverage. The sources are mostly limited to mentioning him as an accompanying saxophonist, not enough to constitute significant coverage. The only longer article that mentions him more than once is from Borås Tidning and even that is mostly about his father, with a few statements about Wojtek, virtually all of them quoted from him directly and thus can not constitute independent coverage. No longer a penguin (talk) 13:20, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Seems to fail WP:GNG as a non-notable musician. Nicnote • ask me a question • contributions 10:39, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. SoWhy 11:43, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jean Arthur Jones

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Subject does not receive reliable secondary coverage, nor are his awards noteworthy enough for an article. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 07:38, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Award-winning, right. My search for "Irina Ratushinskaya Freedom Book Award" couldn't find any description of the award, nor a homepage, just few mentions in passing, seemingly all in relation to this person - which raises a question - is he its only recipient? Veers close to WP:HOAX. Same for "Wilmington Creative Writing Program Book Award". Other refs seem broken and hard to verify too. Nothing I see suggests he meets WP:CREATIVE, and the abysmally low level of sourcing on him makes it possible this is a hoax. In either case, this is a great illustration of abuse of the term "award-winning" :> --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:56, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Yes, the "2005... LizBeth poetry award from the zine" doesn't seem to exist. There is no LizBeth poetry award according to Google and the "zine" is a broken link to an apparently unrelated webpage. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 11:12, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. SoWhy 11:41, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Estonia–North Korea relations

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this article relies on stringing factoids to somehow imply a notable topic. Whilst no formal relations is not a reason for deletion, the interactions are tangential. for example:

• Estonia has been an independent country since its declaration in 1918 before being illegally annexed into the Soviet Union in 1940. Later, the Estonian government-in-exile was formed in 1953 to handle diplomatic matters how does this relate to relations with North Korea?
• United Nations Conference on Disarmament, Estonian foreign minister Urmas Paet condemned the recent nuclear test. you'll find almost every Western country condemns north korea on testing.
• After the Sony Pictures hacking, the 2014 film, The Interview was banned in all of Estonian cinemas. ACME Film representative Elna-Eva Terasmäe said that Sony Pictures was the victim of an unprecedented criminal action, which negative affected employees, customers and the company itself is really barrel scraping for actual interaction between the countries. LibStar (talk) 07:00, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per nom. Apparently there are no official relations, and the unofficial relations appear trivial. Given the small size of Estonia and the great distance between the countries this shouldn't be seen as surprising. Nick-D (talk) 10:00, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete the only reasonable connection is if NATO tangled with DPRK someday. Legacypac (talk) 05:58, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. SoWhy 11:36, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nana Higuchi

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Delete: This article was likely WP:TOOSOON in 2012, and my WP:BEFORE did not find any further progression in the subject's career. The external links are multiple copies of the identical press release from 2012. (One is now a dead link.) The young lady has a YouTube channel, with 33 subscribers. Scottyoak2 (talk) 06:51, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. " In 2014, Higuchi plans to release her debut album". No updates since. This sub-stub draft could be moved to user's namespace for development, but nothing suggests it belongs in the mainspace. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:57, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete and please don't clutter userspace with non-notable stuff. Legacypac (talk) 06:00, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy deletion (A7). (non-admin closure) AllyD (talk) 12:42, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wolf-Boy

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Clearly non-notable 16-year-old, only his own social media as links Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:38, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete (possible CSD A7): A WP:SPA article by WolfBoy60961514, sourced only to the subject's social media accounts. No claim to attained notability in any field, nor can I find better. Fails WP:BIO, WP:GNG. AllyD (talk) 08:10, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Gary Moore. Selective mergers can be performed by accessing the page history. (non-admin closure) feminist 05:09, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Moore (guitarist)

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Not sufficiently notable on his own as per WP:GNG. Being the son of guitarist doesn't cut it either - as per WP:NOTINHERITED. Whilst there are media reports of him playing at his fathers funeral, this material does not support his notability, and seems best placed in the Gary Moore article, where there is already a mention of these facts. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:51, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Merge into Gary Moore. Fails WP:GNG on its own. Comatmebro User talk:Comatmebro 22:39, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect there is hardly enough to merge to Gary Moore that is not already mentioned - plays guitar and is recorded as being a guest guitarist at some concerts. Not notable enough. ww2censor (talk) 10:11, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jack moore posted a video on Facebook of him playing the guitar which received nearly 500 thousand views, and nearly 40k likes and almost 8k shares. His facebook page grew from 11k likes to 20k likes as a result. He then posted a video of him playing Albatross which received nealy 100k views showing Jack Moore has a very large fan base. Even Thin Lizzy are sharing his posts.

The performance at the funeral is not what is making Jack a notable guitarist. Its the hundreds of thousands of views and shares of his songs on social media. https://www.facebook.com/jackmooremusicuk/videos/1483364181714797/ --JodyCollinsBAhons (talk) 14:58, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Cold, Cold Heart (band). (non-admin closure) feminist 05:10, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Manning (musician)

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Fails GNG, sources point to only blogs and press releases, and fails NMUSICIAN. ToThAc (talk) 18:33, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Per WP:MUSICBIO. Comatmebro User talk:Comatmebro 22:46, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Cold, cold heart. He is not individually notable, but the band probably is so. Bearian (talk) 13:30, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to La Salle College#Sports. A merger may be performed by accessing the page history. (non-admin closure) feminist 01:02, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

La Salle College Athletics Club

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Nominating despite a school/sports related article. WP:SOAPBOX, WP:PEACOCK , this sounds like a pamphlet in current shape. Has WP:PRIMARY and WP:NPOV issues and an external video link Devopam (talk) 13:35, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy delete No WP:CCS. Domdeparis (talk) 13:38, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete, fails WP:NORG. Promotional only article. Ajf773 (talk) 18:38, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, or Merge with La Salle College. The activities of the club fail WP:CLUB. First, the club only participates in inter-school athletic activities at a local level (Hong Kong), which is hardly significant on a national or international level. Secondly, I have difficulties finding independent sources on the topic, Chinese or English. If necessary, the club's achievements can be summarized in neutral terms in the La Salle College article, under the section Sports.--Dps04 (talk) 05:56, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Selective merge/redirect to La Salle College#Sports per Dps04 in lieu of deletion. Cunard (talk) 01:24, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete -- there's nothing to merge as the article does not list any 3rd party sources. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:17, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. G5: creation by a blocked user in violation of block or ban Yunshui ^雲_水 13:18, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rawat Mahila B.Ed. College

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advertisement for collage Daniel0Wellby sch (talk) 08:41, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep We actually edit clashed because I was removing the bits that were a clear advert. I'll try to do it again - it's better to remove the inappropriate bits than delete an article on a university, which is almost definitely notable. Boleyn (talk) 08:43, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete even though wp policy states almost all colleges are de facto notable, this college is not included in these "almost all colleges". @Boleyn: A B.Ed. college is not a university. Even though it stands for Bachelor of Education, it is considered as a diploma. It is two year course of "how to teach kids". The creator has obvious COI. He created few articles related to Rawat groups. Nothing notable about this college. The content should be added in the city's article. —usernamekiran(talk) 22:18, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep mostly fixed could now do with just more information. My alt nick is Daniel0Wellby_sch Daniel0wellby (talk) 06:10, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment to closer please note this is a double !vote by the nominator. James (^talk/_contribs) 16:25, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Non-notable sub-unit of a larger university. De facto notability does not apply. No significant coverage found. James (^talk/_contribs)

• @James Allison: it is not a sub-unit of a university. Universities are governing bodies in india. The college is affiliated to a university, that is, that particular university governs it. —usernamekiran(talk) 11:02, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete--Usernamekiran has quite nicely described the siutuation of B.Ed colleges.Winged Blades ^Godric 17:14, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as a degree-awarding institution per longstanding precedent and consensus. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:29, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Draftify. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades ^Godric 08:41, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Românii au talent (season 6)

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Insufficient information. Hiwilms (talk) 14:30, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Draftify in the same way as Românii au talent (season 5) was at the same stage of completeness. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 21:34, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Sexual assault of migrants from Latin America to the United States. Most !voters agreed that this can be merged now that a suitable merge target exists. SoWhy 10:52, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rape tree

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Article recreated after PROD deletion a month or two back. Sources are not reliable enough to confirm this as a notable concept. The first three are YouTube videos from vloggers, not clips from reliable sources. The next is Washington Post, but it's a blog, and the mention of the "rape tree" in it is a Tea Party activist's claim that "rape trees" exist. The blog quotes the activist's claim about rape trees and then follows up with a statement about "confirmed reports of migrant women’s rape by border “coyotes"," making it look like the rape trees claim is similarly confirmed - but it is not, at least not in the article.

The final source is a claim by a local sheriff alleging that trees marked by undergarments and condoms are commonly found along coyote routes and are intended as warnings to migrant women by coyotes. He states, "we discovered that those are rape trees," but from whom? There is no indication of where his information came from, and a local sheriff testifying about illegal immigration issues is about as far from a neutral, independent source as one can get.

Please don't take this AfD wrong; I'm not by any means disputing that women are sexually assaulted by coyotes taking advantage of their situation. I am disputing specifically and exclusively the concept of "rape trees" as a notable concept that should be covered in a stand-alone article in Wikipedia. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 03:44, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment the term "rape tree" appears to be used by the "Minuteman" type movements, not by mainstream sources, nor by the smugglers/illegal immigrants themselves. Power~enwiki (talk) 05:19, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment the appearance of the term in Congressional testimony, which is legit, makes it seem to me as if this is worthy of including in the encyclopedia. Bri (talk) 16:32, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Additional sources include (added 23 May):

• Nationally and locally, civilian militias have a new look [originally published as The militia next door], Williams, Lee. Sarasota Herald-Tribune; Sarasota, Fla. [Sarasota, Fla] 23 Sep 2012: A.1. "While patrolling Arizona's Vekol Valley, Sawyer said the team found a "rape tree" in the desert, a macabre trophy created by the "coyotes" who smuggle aliens. Sawyer said that after a coyote rapes a woman in his group, he will hang her underwear on the tree."
• The privilege of citizenship, Klayr Valentine-Fossum, The Knox Student, Knox College, Galesburg IL., April 2, 2009. "Rape is something that could not be ignored by our camp. Not but a 15 minute hike from where we were sleeping was a site of repeated sexual violence. It was called "the Rape Tree." The tree was located down in a wash, that is, in a dry riverbed, not visible from the bank above. You have to climb down into the wash to see it. Bras and underwear hang from the mesquite's branches. And underneath at the base of the tree were pressed down clothes, blankets and backpacks. This tree had become a symbol of domination; of the power a coyote has over the group."
• The Watch, Fox, Lauren. U.S. News & World Report; Washington (Jul 2013): 1. "As they make their way around the heavy brush, they circle around a pile of women's undergarments, which lay at the foot of a tree. In sections of land near the US-Mexico border, this is known as a "rape tree.""

Your first source quotes someone claiming to have found such a tree, but does not indicate that the newspaper ever followed up on this claim or attempted to fact check the statement. Your second is student journalism, which again shows no indication of any fact-checking. "...a site of repeated sexual violence. It was called “the Rape Tree.”" By whom? When? Third source does seem to meet WP:RS per a quick search of the WP:RSN, but again, I question the credibility of their facts in this case - it's all quotes from "border watch" people with no apparent follow-up or scrutiny. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 03:48, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - The term "Rape tree" is being used in multiple news reports including Washington Post, congressional testimony, government officials (see the YouTube videos.) Perhaps the resolution to this dispute is the add a section to the article noting that the existence of "Rape trees" is disputed. FYI: I am editor who recreated the article.WSDavitt (talk) 18:13, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete lacks in depth coverage in multiple reliable sources. Artw (talk) 18:57, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep - sources looks ok. The term is obviously used. BabbaQ (talk) 15:40, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete (changing iVote to Delete or redirect, see below.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:56, 24 May 2017 (UTC)) for lack of WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS. Coverage such as the Fox News clip linked form youtube in the sources conflate the fact that human traffickers rape the vulnerable women they lead across the border, with the assertion about rape trees. Smugglers are abusive. Trees, panties, and rape exist. The problem is that sources do not support the assertion that rape trees exist. Note that although term is cited to the Washington Post what the Post actually printed was this comment: “Take a look at the rape trees in the Arizona desert. When women come, they’re told to bring plenty of condoms, because ‘you’ll be raped,’ and the trees are covered with women’s underwear and condoms,” the comment was made by "a tea party activist from northern Virginia, referring to confirmed reports of migrant women’s rape by border “coyotes,”as the human traffickers are known." Got that? WaPo confirms that women are raped by coyotes, it does not confirm that "rape trees" exist. And the activist making the assertion is in Virginia. She does not assert that she has seen a "rape tree." The 2014 Reuters article on the page does refer to rape trees. The National Geographic article is only an assertion cited to an individual resident of the border area. That is the sum total of sourcing to major media in article the rest is blogs and youtube. So I ran a gNews [19] search turns up only Brietbart, [20] in which "a human trafficking investigator" asserts that "rape trees are a common practice in this area,” " and Brietbart affirms that "These coyotes usually remove an article of clothing from the female they rape and they tie it tightly to a tree—a rape tree." PJ Media claimed to have found such a tree in 2013, However the sole evidence offered is a photo posted on the Facebook page of something called Texas Border Volunteers. PJMedia continues, "Rape trees have been known of since at least 2009, but they tend not to feature in any discussions of comprehensive immigration reform." [21]. This seems to be true. I see no substantive support for the existence of rape trees in reliable sources. WP:NOTSOAPBOX.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:31, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• This goes back to my meta question about what the purpose of this debate is. Determining that it is a term used in RSes with a reasonably complete definition is, I think, the point. "The existence of X" really shouldn't be the subject of a deletion debate. WP:NOTTRUTH kind of makes your agonizing about whether RSes were correctly or incorrectly interpreting the Texas paramilitary group's claims, moot. Bri (talk) 17:48, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Indeed. This article makes a very big claim. Big claims require heavyweight proof. The evidence here is mere handful of news stories the best of which merely quote an individual law enforcement officer, border-zone rancher or political activist who asserting that a bra hung from a tree is an example of a "rape tree." There is a vibrant Spanish-language press on each side of that, not to mention the vibrant outlets for women's rights and anti-sexual abuse journalism. The question I keep asking myself is: If a story this dramatic is is real, why isn't there more media and better coverage????E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:00, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• This scholarly author asks the same question. Johnson, Jennifer L. (2014), "Border granny wants you", in Nancy A. Naples; Jennifer Bickham Mendez (eds.), Border Politics: Social Movements, Collective Identities, and Globalization, NYU Press, ISBN 9781479858170, in which the author states she "could not find a single academic reference" discussing rape trees, yet they are commonly discussed in the conservative blogosphere, and do profoundly affect attitudes and behavior on the southern U.S. border. - Bri (talk) 10:10, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• WP:HEY any editor arguing Keep on the basis of the Congressional Testimony needs to establish that the individuals giving the information on these trees are recognized experts on the border and offer proof (after all, anybody a Congressman invites can testify, Sissy Spacek can testify about farming [22], that doesn't make her statement RS). But even if the testimony is valid, it is insufficient to establish NOTABILITY.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:31, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Is the standard that the article has to be about an actual, notable phenomenon, or whether the public discussion of the phenomenon is in and of itself notable? I think the latter, which is why we have articles about mass delusions, legends, hoaxes, cryptids, etc. Which is why I brought up Congressional testimony. I don't care for the purposes of this debate whether the testimony was true or not, only that the venue itself gave it notability. - Bri (talk) 19:59, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• The standard is laid out at WP:GNG.@Bri:.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:57, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Sounds pretty fringe. I have raised the matter at WP:FTN. Artw (talk) 21:09, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete the article is hopelessly biased under this title. The phenomenon isn't notable as an urban legend; as an actual phenomenon it should be at most a single paragraph in the controversy section on Coyotaje. Power~enwiki (talk) 21:07, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• "The argument is biased" is WP:SURMOUNTABLE, not a valid reason to delete. Bri (talk) 22:46, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Do you want to reply to the rest of my argument? Power~enwiki (talk) 23:12, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. I added some sources to my comment above. So now in addition we have two very mainstream sources: a page-one regional newspaper and a page-one U.S. News & World Report story using the term and explaining what it is in detail. Good enouh for me. - Bri (talk) 21:55, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the USNews article mentioned by Bri [23]. E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:44, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Revisiting The U.S.. New article is written by a journalist who is being shown the border area by members of the "Texas Border Volunteers", and who show her a "rape tree." Yes, U.S. News goes with the story, but, no, the journalist doesn't have an evidence that it is a "rape tree" beyond the opinion of the Border Volunteers. To me, it looks as though what we have is a small media flurry around an appealing allegation about a group of criminals who exploit, abuse and abandon illegal border crossers to die in the desert. Maybe the y do advertise on rape trees. Pretty hard assertion to prove, though.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:59, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That one does seem to be a bit more of a substantial mention than your other sources, though I've no idea if that publication meets the standard of WP:RS. On matters of substantial import we probably shouldn't be using random news sites nobody has ever heard of before. Artw (talk) 22:51, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

We already have too many references, we don't need pointless arguments asking for more. Power~enwiki (talk) 23:12, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The article as it stands is spammed with all kinds of refs, but If you subtract the low quality or insubstantial sources there are not really enough to support an article. Artw (talk) 23:48, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• User:Bri, you can help your case by removing unreliable sources (I took a few such out just now,) User:Power~enwiki piling up citations to unreliable sources as was done here (spam) is amateurish. If a topic is notable, there will be WP:RS providing WP:SIGCOV and editors should stick to them. The sourcing on this article is a sort of red flag indicating that scholarly validation of the topic and quality investigative journalism does not exist.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:13, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The ginormous quotes probably need to go too, if we take it seriously as an article. Artw (talk) 12:59, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• True, although I did not mean to imply that it should be kept.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:57, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Regarding the comment about me needing to remove non reliable sources. If you are referring to Knox College's student-run newspaper, it may be an RS. Per RSN discussions (March 2017, October 2009, etc.), student newspapers may be RSes. I'd rather leave it for consideration. Bri (talk) 17:42, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge. A modicum of RS does appear to exist, but per GNG, there is insufficient substance to justify a standalone article. I would suggest incorporating it into the Coyotaje article, as previously suggested. DoctorJoeE ^{review transgressions}/_{talk to me!} 22:37, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As nom I am open to merge & redirect. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:25, 23 May 2017 (UTC) struck, see below for comment re: better M&R target. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 19:57, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete or redirect to coyotaje.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:54, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge. It's just not strong enough to merit a page, makes more sense to place it in the context of Coyotaje which actually discusses the topic, and lose 'in popular culture' which as fiction has no relevance there. Mramoeba (talk) 22:08, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• comment if the keel argument is that this is worth covering as a piece of conservative mythology then WP:TNT probably applies, since it isn't in the slightest covered that way at the moment. Artw (talk) 21:52, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• WP:TNT is for "hopelessly unsalvageably" articles, usually either massive copyvio, or polluted by some kind of COI. Even articles created by undisclosed paid editors rarely fall into this category. I don't see how a four-paragraph article with multiple valid sources can be described this way. If you think it should be described as mythology then by all means add a statement to that effect, of course, backed up by RS. - Bri (talk) 23:46, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't need just a statement, it (if kept) needs a full rewrite to make it clear that as far as all sources have indicated, it is an unproven allegation primarily linked to minuteman/borderwatch type movements, with no confirmation from any independent sources. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 06:18, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep I added some info to the article. My research indicates that some people believe rape trees are "real," and other people believe that they are instead a fiction used to fuel an agenda. The sources I provided are books and are reliable sources. The congressional testimonies are also reliable. I'd rather that people searching for a topic like this find a neutral POV article on Wikipedia describing it. The material I added makes it clear that the claims are coming from a particular source and are most likely being used to create an agenda. I think that's sufficient. There's no reason to TNT the article. Improve it like I did if you are unhappy about it. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:38, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Selective Merge and Redirect to sexual assault of migrants from Latin America to the United States (just created, and mentions this subject) - When I first came across this AfD, saw the sources, and did a search for my own, it seemed like a neologism intended to make a political point (e.g. "Consequences of an Open Border") rather than a subject that we need a stand-alone article about. There's enough coverage for me to support something other than deletion, but it's clearly a relatively small element of a much bigger subject -- sexual assault of women crossing the border. I was surprised that I couldn't find an appropriate merge target that dealt with that subject. Coyotaje is sort of related, but the sexual assaults are not the sole domain of the smugglers, and I would argue are not best covered as part of that article regardless. So I started a draft of sexual assault of migrants from Latin America to the United States, and I would like to invite other editors to improve it. I don't even know that the title I chose is the best, but it seems like too important a subject for us only to cover in the coyotaje article or via "rape trees". — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 19:36, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Pinging AfD participants to see if this possibility changes your opinion: @Premeditated Chaos, Power~enwiki, Bri, WSDavitt, Artw, BabbaQ, E.M.Gregory, DoctorJoeE, Mramoeba, and Megalibrarygirl: — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 19:50, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)This is a a much better merge & redirect target than coyotaje, I think. We can make mention of your article in the coyotaje article and then fully discuss the topic in its own article. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 19:57, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Selective Merge and Redirect to sexual assault of migrants from Latin America to the United States. This is a much better way to handle the topic! Kudos to Rhododendrites for putting the article together. The redirect is important, too, because like I wrote above, I want people finding neutral, reliably sourced information about topics like these. I've struck my keep since I agree it's a better fit for the new article. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 20:01, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• comment currently the article has no inbound links, so I am not sure a redirect is really needed. Artw (talk) 20:46, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Concur with selective redirect, merge to sexual assault of migrants from Latin America to the United States. I do think a redirect is useful, since this is a likely search term.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:32, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Selective merge/redirect to sexual assault of migrants from Latin America to the United States per above - and thanks to Rhododendrites. Neutrality^talk 00:50, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Selectively merge and redirect to sexual assault of migrants from Latin America to the United States, the new article created by Rhododendrites which takes a much better approach than the existing article. "Rape trees" is a potential search term so a redirect is appropriate, but they are only a small aspect of the notable topic which Rhododendrites has identified. EdChem (talk) 07:51, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• merge and redirect to sexual assault of migrants from Latin America to the United States as suggested by Rhododendrites and others (!vote changed). As long as substantial content is preserved this is fine. Bri (talk) 13:23, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades ^Godric 08:52, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Josh Sargent

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Article does not fufill requirements of WP:NFootball or WP:GANG Wolfmalfoy (talk) 04:56, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Article does not fufill requirements of [[WP:NFootball] or WP:GANG. The subject of the article is an underaged athlete who has yet to sign a professional contract or play in a professional or senior national team match. The article was created in response to recent press coverage of the subject's performance in a youth tournament and there has not been widely spread coverage of the subject outside of this. The article is therefore inappropriate at this time.Wolfmalfoy (talk) 04:58, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Scoring at a youth tournament is WP:BLP1E. GiantSnowman 11:28, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - There are citations in this article dating back to at least 2016, so WP:BLP1E is not an appropriate basis to delete. CUA 27 (talk) 01:42, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - This footballer fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Fbgpwns5277 (talk) 14:53, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep – he passes GNG Joeykai (talk) 15:52, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - Sargent clearly passes WP:GNG. He is notable. Stating that the article was "created in response to recent press coverage of the subject's performance in a youth tournament" or just because Sargent "scored in a youth tournament" is pure ignorance about the subject in question. Sargent have been a standout for while now and his life and career have been widely covered by media. The article includes several sources and in a quicky search on google any one can find much more. Articles on Sports Illustrated, The Washington Post and Goal, for example. Sargent on Google.--SirEdimon (talk) 22:54, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per WP:GNG. Strange that the nominating editor's account is only 20 hours old with six edits primarily focused on .... Josh Sargent. Hmlarson (talk) 01:00, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Question for admins Does that seem typical of a brand new editor? (cc GiantSnowman)? Hmlarson (talk) 01:18, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Perhaps, it's an account created only to nominate this article for deletion. Really strange.--SirEdimon (talk) 01:42, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: It has a lot of sources but looking at them, a few are just match reports and squad selection articles, two of them are "Five things you need to know" which can be done with any player, and some of the sources are not that reputable like the St. Louis soccer website. The only source that makes me believe he could be notable now is the one from US Soccer where he is the youngest scorer in the U20 World Cup but that is it and not enough in my eyes to see him as notable right now. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 19:04, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Check this out: Top Drawer; SI; S&S; Goal.com;--SirEdimon (talk) 19:38, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I can't make my mind up about this one, this individual has received a lot of coverage recently but most has been about his immediate recent performance and has probably been overhyped due to his age. Almost certainly WP:TOOSOON article will definitely be either recreated or expanded in the future. The subject fails WP:NFOOTY, not sure if it passes WP:GNG or not. Inter&anthro (talk) 21:40, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - This footballer fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. --Soccer8295 (talk) 14:09, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Response - Instead of merely providing a WP:VAGUEWAVE at policy, perhaps you can explain why you believe that, despite the quantity and quality of sources, this article fails to meet WP:GNG? CUA 27 (talk) 03:13, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Snow Keep per SirEdimon. Quidster4040 (talk) 14:51, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - Sargent reached another milestone. He joined Jozy Altidore (2007), Eddie Johnson (2003) and Taylor Twellman (1999), becoming one of the USA’s all-time goalscorers at the U-20 World Cup. FIFA.com interviewed Sargent about this and another accomplishments reached by him--SirEdimon (talk) 23:05, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - If there were some doubt before, the article more clearly now demonstrates that it meets WP:GNG, as I've added a few citations and additional text. The article includes references to several reputable publications, both general media (Washington Post, St. Louis Post Dispatch, Sports Illustrated) and some of the more prominent national US soccer media (Goal, Soccer America). CUA 27 (talk) 02:57, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep Article easily passes WP:GNG with all of the sources cited. Nominator's behavior is also questionable at best. Smartyllama (talk) 17:00, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - meets WP:GNG with sources in article. Nominator does indeed look odd. Created AFD last month as first edit. Made his last Wikipedia edit 14 minutes later, and hasn't been seen since! Nfitz (talk) 01:03, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedily deleted as WP:CSD#G5 (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/John Smooth) by K6ka.Dlohcierekim (talk) 15:37, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fierra fly

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This has been speedy deleted six times under the titles Fly Fierra and Fly fierra (both titles are now salted). The basic argument remains the same: he's just not notable as a musician and producer. The only coverage (actually simple instances of his name being mentioned) in reliable sources stems not from his work as an artist but from a dumb prank he pulled with a couple of friends. Pichpich (talk) 04:35, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it's been brought to my attention that the problems about this topic have already resulted in multiple sockpuppetry blocks. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/John Smooth. Pichpich (talk) 04:47, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Speedy delete G5 as the loudest duck in the world. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:35, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Memphis, TN 2000

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Live/archive album that relies entirely on band web pages. It lacks significant secondary sources. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 03:23, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per nom. No coverage found in independent reliable sources; appears to fail WP:NALBUM.  gongshow  talk  06:14, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. (non-admin closure) CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 11:21, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Griffin

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Am I the only one who thinks that this page should be merged into a redirect? Sure, he's a main character in one of the most iconic animated series, but the page hardly covers any out-of-universe notability, and a majority of sections or content is unsourced, save for the Creation and Development section. And after doing research I could hardly find any official sources or news coverages on the character that are noteworthy enough to warrant an article, or any at all for that matter; when typing the character's name (or "chris family guy") into Google News, most of the coverages deal with people who just happen to have the same name as him and have no affiliation with Family Guy whatsoever. The closest sources to real-word perspective of the character I could find were the coverages concerning him dating American singer-songwriter Taylor Swift in the episode "Chris Has Got a Date, Date, Date, Date, Date", but considering that it was only a one-time thing that didn't attract much impact, I don't find the information that sufficient to consider the character iconic, despite his series being such. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if an article about a fictional character doesn't have a Reception, Controversy, Criticism, or Cultural impact section, then does that automatically mean it should be merged into a redirect? SoapSoapWhatIsSoap (talk) 02:39, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Major character so meets WP:GNG. Any questionable items can be marked with a CN tag. MarnetteD|Talk 02:51, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please note The nom is now blocked and - considering their recent edits - IMO this is a bad faith nomination and could be "speedy kept" or even "spedy deleted" MarnetteD|Talk 02:53, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Strong Keep Per above. Comatmebro User talk:Comatmebro 02:57, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep This is a joke nomination, right? DP76764 (Talk) 03:16, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep WP:BADFAITH; blocked user who needs to spend their time doing something else than psycho-analyzing cartoon characters. Mike Baxter (Last Man Standing) could do with a look too; intricate detail for what is a bland and generic sitcom lead character. Nate • (chatter) 03:24, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Merge to Characters of Family Guy. Just being a major character of a long running work does not create notability. We need secondary sources that talk about the character in depth beyond just reiterating plot details. That doesn't appear to exist to a significant degree to allow a standalone article. --MASEM (t) 04:06, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy Keep as nomination was in bad faith. There are many more egregious cases of excessive in-universe details than this. Power~enwiki (talk) 04:48, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep There are plenty of news and scholar entries for a better-narrowed Find Sources search. Jclemens (talk) 05:05, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've checked through several years of that narrower search and can't find any sign of in-depth coverage of the character, outside frequent mentions of being voiced by Seth Green (which is nowhere close to sufficient GNG detail). Just because there are ghits doesn't mean they're usable sources. --MASEM (t) 05:31, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep major character deserving of own article. Artw (talk) 06:25, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also appears to be a bad faith nom from a now blocked user. Artw (talk) 06:27, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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