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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 03:55, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of significant tornadoes by calendar day

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This is a cherry-picked list with no specific criteria. The article name is highly misleading as one would expect every tornado that occurred on each day to be listed (which is impossible). Dates on this page have mention of certain tornadoes or outbreaks without any mention of multiple other tornadoes or outbreaks of equal or greater significance occurring the same dates. Since not every tornado event can be included, this article is misleading and should be deleted. United States Man (talk) 03:56, 15 May 2024 (UTC) United States Man (talk) 03:09, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment No reason has been specified for deletion. Noah, BSBATalk 03:40, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Stand by. I gave a reason but it seems that was not carried over into the discussion for some reason. United States Man (talk) 03:53, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The title probably should have been changed ages ago. I changed it to reflect how it should read. I know it will get deleted anyway, but I’m still trying to plead my case. I wish I could be given the opportunity to fix this page - with a deadline - instead of it just being deleted entirely. Dym75 (talk) 15:03, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Environment and Lists. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as WP:LISTCRUFT. I don't understand why we need to know what day of any particular year a tornado occurred. Ajf773 (talk) 09:05, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as utterly inane. Tornadoes don't have any correlation to specific calendar days (except for there being fewer on February 29). Clarityfiend (talk) 10:59, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Except it’s not “utterly inane” … if it were fixed, this could be an excellent reference for people looking to see if there was a significant tornado or outbreak on a given day. Dym75 (talk) 15:10, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Agree with the rest, this list fails the criteria for a list on wikipedia in several ways, one of which is that it's arbitrary, another that it's an unmanageably large set.--Licks-rocks (talk) 12:43, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom and others. Noah, BSBATalk 12:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. Also disagree that no reason was provided for deletion. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 13:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Abhishek0831996: Check the history. It was blank before. Noah, BSBATalk 13:56, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. This list does not need to exist at all. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 15:42, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete It honestly feels like a sort of "fan-page", and really doesn't contribute much to the actual encyclopedia. Tornadoes don't follow a by-day pattern each year, and if say for "May 30" the 1999 F5 popped up, what about the May 30 F0? There are no criteria. MemeGod ._. (My talk page, my contributions and my creations!) 15:47, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rather than outright deleting it, perhaps it could be moved to the weather portal, for the weather events by day? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Snow Delete per WP:LISTCRUFT and also WP:NLIST. As MemeGod pointed out, there is no pattern for day-by-day tornado events. Conyo14 (talk) 17:24, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete for all reasons previously covered. wxtrackercody (talk · contributions) 18:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please do not delete

I have not gotten to work on this page as much as I’d like to, but there was a purpose to my edits, as many of them as there were, and I’d love more time to work on it: 1. It was proof that tornadoes can happen on every single day of the calendar year. People think that they can’t or don’t happen in certain months, but they do. 2. It was proof that tornadoes can happen on six of the seven continents (if there’s been one on Antarctica, then correct me!), trying to get away from being too America-centered since folks don’t realize how many places are affected beyond Tornado Alley, Dixie Alley, etc. I found more info on tornadoes that happened in Africa, South Asia, Australia, etc. 3. I had no intentions of making this a “fan page” - which sounds odd, anyway - but for educational purposes. I was trying to find tornadoes with significance, including all the EF5 tornadoes, the most significant EF4 tornadoes, the deadliest, the costliest, and so on. I was trying to include tornadoes that happen in states where folks least expect them (New England states, Hawaii, etc). 4. The whole point of continuing the page was for the folks who may stumble upon it and learn something. It would dispel myths which is incredibly important. The ignorance outside the weather community is astounding. Knowledge can save lives, right? I’m going to copy all the code/info and such because I spent days upon weeks in the past trying to fix this page, but work, health, and my elderly Mom have gotten in the way. If all else fails, and you folks just delete it anyway, I’ll just create my own website with this information. Stinks if I had to do that, though… dym75 16 May 2024

You cannot use Wikipedia for personal gain. Knowledge here has to be reliable, notable, and significantly covered. Feel free to find educational sources and ping them here. Conyo14 (talk) 02:34, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Personal gain? I don’t understand. Also, every source has been reliable, all tornadoes listed are notable, and… significantly covered? Dym75 (talk) 14:29, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You specialize in hockey/sports pages? Why are you part of a discussion about the deletion of a weather article? This is so confusing… Dym75 (talk) 14:59, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because he can be? Anyone can be part of a discussion, no matter the topic. Heck, I write mainly galaxy pages! MemeGod ._. (My talk page, my contributions and my creations!) 17:15, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Way to make me feel inclusive. I have plenty of knowledge in all facets of Wikipedia, whilst continuing to expand my wisdom. That being said, the sources listed are WP:ROUTINE to a normal, yet typically catastrophic, weather event, but are not induced to the specific day of the week or day of the year. There are better arguments for the month they occur recognized with tornado patterns. Also, if people were curious about a date it happened, they can review List of tornado events by year and go from there. Conyo14 (talk) 17:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Half of that didn’t make sense. I literally don’t know how to ask for clarification. Dym75 (talk) 02:10, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It has nothing to do with knowledge and saving lives. The article is non-encyclopedic. You could add 700,000 bytes to the page, and the article still would be AfD because it isn't needed. I hope you Mom gets better! :) MemeGod ._. (My talk page, my contributions and my creations!) 11:19, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for saying that about my Mom.
I guess I don’t understand why someone didn’t nominate this page for deletion years ago. It’s been around for well over a decade and god knows I certainly wouldn’t have bothered doing loads of research and trying to improve upon it.
There is/was criteria for selecting the tornadoes I did. They were EF5s or EF4s, they were historically significant with regard to advances in meteorology, how tornadoes were recorded. They were culturally significant because of the people or places affected, the loss of life or property. They were proof of significant tornadoes on other continents. I dug up information from a variety of other Wiki articles, from NOAA databases, major news stories, other sources. I was trying to keep it relevant on a worldwide scale with as many other major tornadoes from other continents as possible.
You folks will probably boot me from Wikipedia forever for changing the title, but I did anyway: “List of significant tornadoes by calendar day.” That was the idea behind my edits. Actual significance and not a fan page - still don’t understand what that means. (And I know folks may have added a bunch of random events between May and November or during other times of the year that didn’t line up with the standard I was trying to create for the page. That certainly doesn’t help my case.) Dym75 (talk) 14:56, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry, nobody is THAT harsh (although I will say some crazy people are on here). Even if it was renamed, it's all good. :) MemeGod ._. (My talk page, my contributions and my creations!) 17:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dym75: From WP:NCLIST: Best practice is to avoid words like notable, famous, noted, prominent, etc. in the title of a list article. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, aren’t encyclopedias supposed to be about learning, gaining knowledge? Dym75 (talk) 14:57, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dym75, given the arguments expressed thus far, this article will likely be deleted. Your time should be spent saving the content you want to transfer to your own website so you aren't asking for it to be restored later so you can do this. Read the room, no one is supporting Keeping this article, if you want to be preserving your work, you should be doing that now as the tide is not going to suddenly turn in the opposite direction and save this article. Liz Read! Talk! 03:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did that three days ago. Thanks for your concern. Dym75 (talk) 03:54, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This is not a topic that lends itself to a list format, and as a result this list comes across as rather arbitrary. The seasonality of tornadoes is probably something that should be covered somewhere on Wikipedia; File:US daily tornado probability.png serves this purpose way better than a list of raw data does. It's the difference between Climate of London and List of rainy days in London, more or less. The list also does not have any proper WP:LISTCRITERIA—"Tornadoes on this list were included because of extraordinary or extreme characteristics (e.g. strength, damage, fatalities) or historical or cultural significance (including special scientific or human interest stories)." is not unambiguous, objective, and supported by reliable sources. TompaDompa (talk) 16:14, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:NLIST. Georgethedragonslayer (talk) 05:13, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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