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If you have the capacity to tremble with indignation every time that an injustice is committed in the world, then we are comrades. – Che.

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El C, contrary to your edit summary- I noticed you were gone, and missed seeing you on recent changes. You are one of my favourite editors. This is for you. Regards, dvdrw 04:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yay! Many chipthanks for the kind words. Greatly appreciated. Best, El_C 06:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well I noticed and missed you! (Official circular here). Novickas (talk) 12:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC) Thought of you while uploading this picture [1]... for all of your work. Novickas (talk) 17:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks! El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sort of in a hole and am having difficulties submerging. Speaking of holes/that chippie, I got to do some visiting in its burro recently...

Later, adding even more festive decorations, and inspected the whiskers:

And some drinky-drinky as well as rubbing under chin:

Also, two days ago I got to rub a cheekadee's tummy(!); for a handsome reward, of course:

Love, El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You look really good in your purple hat! Bishonen | talk 00:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Free hat! Today, while cheekadeepetting, this lady who saw us from a far, came over and said: "Can I tell you something...? You're an angel of God."(!) To which I of course replied: "All hail Atheismo!" [nah, I said: "thank you, maddam, that's very kind of you" — what else could I say?] I took an especially neat cheekadeepetting photograph today: it remained visible between my thumb and index as it flew away, giving the illusion it was bee-sized! What an unexpected, and sweet, effect! El_C 02:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, Capitano, where do you get a large enough sweater for a person with that hand? Bishonen | talk 20:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC).[reply]

And then there's Skunky! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Combine obvious love of animals with photography results in photographic win! — Coren ^(talk) 15:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Great to learn that peoples (plural!) like! Chickadee says hi! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Thanks, SqueakBox 23:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thx, everyone! Happy 2009! El_C 12:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Happy day! Jehochman ^Talk 19:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

El C, I've been meaning to ask for ages. What is the link between revolutionary socialism and chimpunks? Did I miss that bit in Animal Farm? Is it something to do with resting the means of damn making from beavers? --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No link; but are you referring to Groundhog? (see left) There is a Groundhog-Chippie connection, which I was trying to further cultivate (see right). El_C 11:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Love is in the air ....dooooo .....dooo.dooo ......doooo ......dooo.doooo ." --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm envious. You get to pet ALL the fuzzeh creatures!  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  01:40, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Let me know when it is out, and you will up your sales by one. :-) KillerChihuahua^?!? 09:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1. Four Facets of existence: 1. Matter 2. Energy 3. Space 4. Time

2. Four Dimensions: 1. 1D 2. 2D 3. 3D 4. 4D (temporal)

3. Four Fundamental interactions: 1. Strong 2. EM 3. Weak 4. Gravity

4. Four States of matter: 1. Solid 2. Liquid 3. Gas 4. Plasma

El_C 07:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just for information at the moment: are you able to do revision deletions? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 19:47, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Affirmative. El_C 20:46, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. There are a couple of admins I usually contact when I see something that needs to deleted, but unfortunately they let real life interfere with their admin duties. You are online a lot at the same times I am, so it's good to have another person to contact if needed. I generally only ask personally if it's both serious and urgent. - BilCat (talk) 02:29, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, by all means. If I'm around, please don't hesitate. El_C 02:30, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much. I realize.my wording above presumes you'd be willing, and that I didn't actually ask, so thanks. :) - BilCat (talk) 04:01, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I can live with your highly arbitrary closing summary of the RfC on the Talk page, so I do not want to persuade you to change it. However, you closed other on-going debates as well. Could you open the other debates? Thank you. Borsoka (talk) 05:57, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, the thanks I get! El_C 05:58, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And all I got was a ^^^

• Talk:And Then There Were None#RfC: And Then There Were None and racial language
• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics#Request for comments on the 'political position' parameter of the political party infobox
• Talk:Romania#RfC
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: HispanTV
• Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship#Is RfX a vote, or a consensus discussion? (RfC)
• Talk:Civil Rights Act of 1968#Merger of Fair Housing Act and Indian Civil Rights Act of 1968 into this article
• Talk:WikiLeaks#RFC: Murder Of Seth Rich content dispute
• Talk:Athens News#Request for comment
• Talk:SNC-Lavalin affair#RfC: LavScam
• Talk:Christchurch mosque shootings#RfC: Change "white supremacist" to "white nationalist"

El_C 06:06, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Precious

Three years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nice. Thanks, Gerda! El_C 08:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Good day, see? Take music and flowers to your liking ;) - It's great to see your name so often on my watchlist. One area where I often wait for admin action - not now - is WP:ITNN, where we nominate for recent deaths to be shown on th Main page, and often the time between an article found [Ready] and then is [Posted] seems [too] long to still call it recent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, good ol' ITNC —where I got no credit for being the first to have  Posted the Corona virus outbreak, but upon (admittedly, perhaps somewhat prematurely) doing the same for the Kirk Douglas RD got a what-the-fuck-barbeque— it's a magical place! El_C 11:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see, sorry for touching some wound ;) - Same for me: last year, I nominated a great pianist for RD, after I first had create an article which took time, and then carried away to also make it decent, - and by then her death was so long ago that she wasn't mentioned at all. The more woman, and the more foreign, that danger seems imminent, and if I may bother you in case I seee it coming again, that would be great. At present, it's a man, listed 20 Feb (although who knows if that was the day?), and nobody even commented yet, so nothing to be concerned about right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, by all means, if you feel Peter Dreher is [Ready], let me know so I could do the honours. El_C 12:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I nominated him, so am not the most independent to judge ;) - and I'm already busy with the next, a woman, but mostly not foreign. - I really think we have some unintended bias there: the most prominent figures (white U.S. males) get speedy attention, and appear soon at the top position, while the female foreigners - often reported late to start with - take so long to even be noticed that they get only a place towards the end, finally, - as long as we go by date of death and not "in at the top". Result: those who are promminent already get preferred showing, more in front, and longer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, countering systemic bias is a treacherous mistress — though in the case of Kirk Douglas, I have to admit my own affinity for his admirable work countering the Hollywood blacklist... Anyway, +Peter Dreher to RD. El_C 13:16, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

February flowers

Alte Liebe

Thank you, love-ly! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:42, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I nominated the poet for ITNN. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:36, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

At the [Ready]! El_C 14:48, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

and posted ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That was quick! I helped? El_C 17:33, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

think so ;) - today's Alte Liebe became especially meaningful after yesterday's funeral. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Next foreign women RD: Odile Pierre. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: sorry for the belated response — I overlooked your last message. Apologies for not being able to assist with that one. Please don't hesitate to list more. I'll try to be more cognizant of this thread next time, I promise. El_C 03:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda's corner

To help me better remember! El_C 05:10, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda’s corner is lovely. When I have more time in my life and can do things beyond blocking socks, I plan to spend time there getting some of the Holy Thursday hymns on the main page. Gerda, if it’s not too late to find one, let me know. The Pange Lingua is always a first choice, but if there are any others you can think of, I’m open. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also, El C’s talk page is lovely, especially for his hosting my musing about music he likely doesn’t care about one iota! TonyBallioni (talk) 05:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I like all kinds of music, including of the eclectic and esoteric variaty — lately I've been Dimashing it up (special thanks goes to Jasmin Ariane!). El_C 05:32, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely corner, thank you! Today is The day of music, two choirs singing. I'd like Beati improved - but it's in the evensong, perhaps I'll get to a few more lines. On IWD, I should also get Elinor Ross in better shape ... - but singing comes first. Listen to Beati by voces8, another article needing improvement. Singing comes first ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On the ITNN page, 6 Mar, Carsten Bresch. We will possibly never know when he died, but should use 6 - when the world was informed - as the day by which we go. I may be alone with that view ;) - Lovely lively colours! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Expect the sky to fall at ITNC — posted with Mar 0? (!). El_C 13:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for posting, and I added "Posted", but don't want to pass credits. DYK you know that it is as easy as clicking on the words "credit" in the nom? Nice progress on the soprano, but out for singing (alto), second round. A good source for her death would be a nice addition, anyone. this is all Spanish to me, and the English one is a blog. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

nom done, and the credits were done by someone else - bedtime --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sleep tight. El_C 23:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

done also, and she's there - today's topic seem to be errors (3) in the OTD section of the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Amakuru took care of that! - What should I do about this decline? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you're confident it's good, I would move it to main namespace nonetheless. El_C 10:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How about you? - I asked the decliner for reasoning, but got no answer. I think it might be better if it's not a personal thing between them and me, so an independent pair of eyes might help. - I don't go via AfC, nor does my friend LouisAlain, but last year many of his translations were sent to draft space, for lack of refs, just because de and fr have different ideas about referencing. I try to rescue, that's all. Then get a ridiculous template on my talk recommending the Teahouse, and still see the ridiculous decline template recommending to seek help from an experienced editor, - the things we do to voluntary contributors ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Mainspacified. And I didn't even visit the Teahouse! El_C 13:37, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

pacified ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for tagging me, El_C! Concerning Dimash: Oh wow, I really didn't expect that! But I'm happy you enjoy it! It's funny, it's not even a genre I usually listen to. But the first time I heard him 2 years ago, I immediately loved his music. I love his voice, his emotional interpretation; and his vocal skill, range and versatility are just enormous. And he seems to be a very nice and humble guy, which makes it even easier to like him. PS: "eclectic and esoteric variety"? Wow, that sounds interesting. Jasmin Ariane (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

♫ Welcome to the corner, Jasmin! Yes, I love Dimash's Sinful Passion, New Wave, SOS d'un terrien en détresse, Ogni Pietra (Olimpico), Opera 2, and more. Indeed, music-wise, I'm all over the place. Yesterday, I was listening to the Mahavishnu Orchestra, I'm listening to Charlie Byrd right now (because I love bossa nova, above all else), and I'm listening to the China Philharmonic Orchestra in the car currently. So, yeah, all over the place. Welcome, again! ♫ El_C 16:47, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hellebore

Want a drink in darkness? - Schloss Freudenberg --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Somehow, I don't really see that concept spreading to other bars... Back to out previous conversation, somewhat, a different kind of Green: "MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE - A Randy Rainbow Song Parody" (just released). El_C 14:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I missed Mathsci for two years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Criss-crossing paths... El_C 15:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

BWV 1, concertante violin 1 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's right, I remember seeing that. El_C 15:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you ever click on Reformation on my user page, first occurence? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have clicked on all of the (longstanding) links on your userpage. El_C 16:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am impressed. ... and follow to what the first 2 had discussed, and used, and then one of them needed it, and probably had known that all the time? ... which was my user page lead until 2021 when I decided people hovering over my name should see a pic I took. The last time I used it was for Cassianto, 24 May 2020. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but otherwise, your userpage isn't easy to parse, due to the fact that you actually use it. I edit mine like once a decade. El_C 18:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I copied that from BarkingMoon including the top icon - a bird on the Main page today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love it when the Main page gets that much colour. I noticed that article yesterday and thought: wow, those birds are almost as iridescent as Hummingbirds , which are... well, kinda the best! El_C 18:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

yes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Opa is now on the Main page, Wilhelm Knabe, who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, - see here. - Further down on the page, there are conversations about the current arb case request - I feel I have to stay away - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yay for Green Opa! This made my day! El_C 16:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Today, we have Doris Stockhausen on her 97th birthday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Till 120! El_C 15:39, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Birds of a feather

External videos
Bitter-sweet groove (translation unavailable on request!)

Spiel nicht mit den Schmuddelkindern ... anticipated protest --- and listen, not to me, but the music (in the article) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

... and after the music, please listen to User talk:Nikkimaria --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand. There's a YouTube video at the bottom of the page, but it's just some people talking in German (which I don't-Opa-understand) alongside some German folk music (not my cup of tea). Then, you link to Nikkimaria's talk page as an ill with numbers and stuff, but it still only links to their main user talk page. Quite confusing. El_C 13:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

entirely my fault, I thought I had the video in the article, but no, only on the talk of Martinevans123, and when I'm absent-minded, I confuse ill and diff, Nikkimaria. But hurray, I just expanded the soprano, sufficiently I hope. Need fresh air now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I didn't really like that song. Didn't dislike it either. Was just kinda meh. Personally, I prefer the Israeli children songs I grew up on, like הילדה הכי יפה בגן, for example. El_C 16:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Degenhardt would have been delighted! Not a song to be liked, - did you read the quote which I translated (improving on Deeple) per the talk request. Song talk about unpleasant smells, ending with a crime and a corpse swimming ... while the surviving grubby children keep singing that you better don't play with them. - Thanks for yours. Did you read my advice for M? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did not. Quoted where? Also, after Opa, I'm afraid to ask, but what's a "Deeple"? Yes, I saw it. Sound advise, but I'm still concerned that further cognizance will nonetheless be needed in order to avoid utter disaster in the future. El_C 16:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

my next mistake, DeepL - as you know everything about me you'll know that I am an infobox warrior who had to be restricted by arbcom to prevent utter disaster in the future. For 2 years I was too proud to appeal. I should have known SBHB's advice in the case, but then we might not have gotten to Beethoven ;) - RfC for Ian Fleming, and I stay away, I stay away, I don't play that game any more - please, be never afraid to ask! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Matti Caspi laments about how many songs can even be created, but does so in a song he created (כמה שירים אפשר להמציא בכלל), so there you go. Take that, eternity! El_C 17:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda doesn't lament but enjoys the support by Brian, continued when others called her guilty, - always trying to mediate. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tis the season for bitter-sweet...? Also, trying something (top of section — EEng uncredited mention). El_C 18:45, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

look --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

did you? - interesting bitter-sweet today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did in passing, but I just am not in the headspace for riddles today, I'm afraid. But I did like File:Idstein,_Unytsjerke._Oersjoch_ynterieur.jpg. Almost-but-not-quite grand; warm but-not-quite gaudy. Sorry, I haven't heard of that translator before. Did you know her, personally? El_C 23:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. The church pic - as you will have seen - is in my user infobox for 2021. I don't know the singer personally, but she sang for us several times, Bach's great works (all explained if you follow the link, also (below there) that some like to receive my thanks and appreciation), and she sang recently in cantata services that I pictured (her page). On all these pictures, she is too small for "about her", and my lead is smaller "about me", of course. - I knew nothing about the translator, but she was a red link on Deaths in 2021. The bitter-sweetness is between her and her ex-husband, a novelist with an article who wrote her obit. (They had four children when they were divorced, and now he has ten.) - The delegate called me to task for the Bach cantata, so I will have to not follow spontaneous impulses for a few days, - hope no one dies whose article has to be written. In the cantata, BWV 1, I have a problem. The article was all built on one source (and all other Bach cantatas at the time also, btw) which one user denies reliability. I wanted to keep it, supporting it for all facts - only recordings, anyway - by a second source, trying to be faithful to the article history and to retain what editors did before me. He removed it. Quite generally, I have a problem with expansions which ignore what former editors achieved, see BWV 53 and Ian Fleming for recently mentioned examples. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, just read that at: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/08/dr-vera-wulfing-leckie-obituary — I see what you mean. Right, I knew it (the church) looked familiar. Hope you're able to resolve your BWV 1 problem. I'd offer to help, but I'd probably just mess it up, anyway. El_C 16:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You will not mess anything up if you look at the old ref and tell me if it looks despicable to you, just for curiosity. The article was like this when I began "taking over". - Did you see this trying to revert a takeover? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It does not look "despicable" to me, but I am far from an authority. This is not an area with which I am familiar. El_C 18:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, helped. I just found this (having searched for Thomanerchor) and look what is bolded, and praised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Helleborus orientalis

happy Valentine's! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, for you, too. Did an English translation of a song at User_talk:El_C#Us, btw, and am about to submit another ("US," itself), so check it out! El_C 16:23, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

adding today's featured picture of February 17 - a nice match to my wild one --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely, lovely! El_C 23:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@El C: @Octoberwoodland: Continuing this discussion, I'd like to request that 2021 storming of the United States Capitol be put under WP:1RR (I guess that would be Template:American politics AE?). How do I make such a request? Post to WP:AN? Or can an admin (i.e. you :-)) do that without a formal request? — Chrisahn (talk) 23:59, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Chrisahn, right, you ask me, here, like so. But can you show that there is a lot of protracted edit warring going on? Because I'm wary of throttling a page that sees that much activity. Not sure why you pinged Octoberwoodland here. They are not an admin, so they do not have the authority to grant your request. El_C 00:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, there hasn't been much edit warring. Just like Octoberwoodland, I thought the page was already under 1RR, and I thought it would be useful. But if you'd rather not do it yet, that's fine with me as well. If problems do arise, I'll come back here. But I hope it won't be necessary. :-) (The ping was just because Octoberwoodland started the discussion at Alalch Emis's talk page and might want to chime in here.) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just understood that moments ago (the ping). Anyway, in general, restrictions are added by need only. The general consensus among admins is to wait and see, and only if needed add 1RR. And if that isn't enough, only then move on to additional enhancements, like Consensus required (i.e. gradual escalation). Regards, El_C 00:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation! These processes are more fine-grained than I thought. Probably a good thing. Although I'm afraid I won't remember the difference between {{ds/editnotice}} and {{ds/talk notice}} a week from now. :-) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I just type T:DSA (all listed at the bottom), otherwise, who can remember! El_C 00:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is time I knew more about do's and don'ts applicable to infoboxes. Could you let me have the link to any WP that applies to Infoboxes as such? Qexigator (talk) 17:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'm far from an authority on infoboxes, Qexigator, so short of pointing you to the MOS:INFOBOX-obvious, I would just advise you to avoid WP:ARBINFOBOX2 at all cost! Regards, El_C 18:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Some users get hot about infoboxes, while for others it's the normal thing to have. Before adding an infobox to an article without one, check for warnings in edit mode, and for discussions on the talk page. Recent example Ian Fleming, nonono. Those who made the article as nice as it is today don't like it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:23, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Haha! See what I mean, Qexigator? *Pokes Gerda* El_C 18:25, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link to MOS:INFOBOX. This comfirms my experience when I have been looking at or editing other well-established articles on impottant topics: the infobox is 'to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article (an article should remain complete with its summary infobox ignored,,,The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance,' If well done, they can be very helpful when needed.' Qexigator (talk) 18:44, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My favourite is Beethoven. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The unquestionable elegance of less is more. El_C 19:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am so proud of that ;) - Did you know that I designed it in the workshop of Teh Case ("Actually, I believe almost every article would profit from a placement like that in history and geography.")? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User:El C/Songs from the homeland (YouTube links to individual performances are at the top of the subpage, in boldface)

"You See Far, You See Clear"

"Us"

"I Want Us To Be Realized"

"Didn't Know You'd Walk Away From Me"

"You Put My Hand In Yours"

"A Place Of Worry"

What Is Love?

"How Is It That A Star"

"A Love Song (Like A Wheel)"

"Sitting On The Fence"

"Fragile"

"In Praise Of Samba"

"Where Are You?"

"Poogy Tales"

"Tell Me"

"There Were Nights"

"It Happens"

"Drawing"

"Yes, It Has No Chance, But Between Myself And I Everything Is Allowed"

Last updated: El_C 09:05, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda loves subsections!

Thanks for sharing! Reminds me of my one and only contrib to the Hebrew Wikipedia. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would have liked to add the pic to context, but can't tell ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to he:קובץ:Ubud_Cremation_4.jpg, because that is one scary dragon! El_C 08:51, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

yes ;) - that pic was taken by my much-missed friend who made the good version for Ian Fleming, and my illustration for the infobox wars (see the link to the workshop, and in my 2020 talk archive). - On the other topic, Bach, we have now another ANI, by Smerus, Nikkimaria is fighting, I shake my head and try to look away, and Mathsci is still blocked. How many more editors in good standing are going to be burnt? - I like the singers music, but the images best when I see him, not graphics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Haha! All roads lead to Ian Fleming, it seems. Also, you're making me sound like the grim reaper, but I just want to pet a chipmunk! El_C 11:03, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"making you sound"? I just tremble with indignation - out for the day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's the second time today where I've had Che quoted back at me — looks like it's gonna be one of those days... Enjoy your outing! El_C 11:13, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Innisfree Garden

Back from sun and snow: sorry if that landed wrong. I was a bit in a rush, and reacted to "all roads lead to IF". I don't care about IF, at all, the number of my edits to his article is zero, the number of my edits to the talk page is zero. I had not thought of him in years until the ongoing RfC, and my edits will remain zero. I use his name as an example, because - with the RfC going - I can mention it, otherwise if I mentioned a name from the group someone would come and cry "canvassing".

I thought about the animosity, and what I can trace back (because I really don't understand it), and looked at what I wrote about Ian Fleming on the page deleted as a call to battle. I made a note of the name, that it was infobox person (red background indicating that it was lost) and the above-mentioned diff of a good version from 2012 piped to the date. That's all. I had forgotten until I looked it up now that my friend had made the good version. When we lost him (later that year) I spread the image all over the Wikipedias, even Hebrew (with some help from a friend from Jerusalem). My first reaction had been to leave, but then I didn't want to do his enemies that favour ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, that is some lovley greenery. So nice. Also, you can CANVASS me any day, Gerda, but should probably note my propensity to call (!)voter fraud whenever things don't go my way (diff). Anyway, trying to take it easy today, with the occasional bouts of critical drinking. El_C 19:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, easy today, will explain "canvass" some other day, also why I think the animosity is inherited, because the listing described really doesn't explain it, - although I can see (now) that the red background - about as red as your top image - could be seen as inflammatory. But a reason to leave Wikipedia? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Easier today, with progress on BWV 1. Back to the beginning, Hebrew: we miss Yoninah, terribly, and one of the many things she would have done for me is adding the text of a psalm to the article, compare Psalm 45 and Psalm 43. The text can be found at the bottom, in External links. I could probably manage but would feel safer if someone did it who could actually read it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Oh, good, glad to hear it. Yup, I well know Yoninah for her top-tier contributions. I wouldn't count our losses yet, though. She's only been gone less than a month. Hopefully, she'll return soon. *Sending positive vibes* El_C 11:01, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Haha! Dangerous terrain (diff), who would have thunk it? (Seriously, I didn't.) El_C 11:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. I confess to being puzzled (diff). Anyway, pinged you to User_talk:Veverve#Psalm_43_query. Hopefully, my confusion can be assuaged. El_C 11:32, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

did it? (I had an edit conflict there) - thank you for a new word, "assuaged" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See the trouble you get me into? Now to ameliorate! El_C 11:39, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

going out again, sun and snow, will think about amelioration when walking --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Obligatory Here Comes Sunshine spam! El_C 12:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

refreshed: spam for spam (subject of my first article, which was supposed to be the only one, but it had this red link ...) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice, but I still think I'm owed some Psalms-related comforting! El_C 20:38, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I like that a lot! El_C 20:49, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly: more work for you, in her memory. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Guess what, BWV 1 and BWV 159 make progress. You mentioned AE. I was there, last 2015. It was so awful that I dropped all pride (and it felt like giving up walking uprightly - watch out for Psalm 110 there) and appealed (and even successfully so). Starlight on top of that archive ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:01, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take some startlight — been flying too close to the sun lately, truth be told. El_C 18:34, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome! I made a hook, also for you.

One this day nine years ago, I told Voceditenore that she is a voice of opera and reason. In 2018, she said: "And, no, there haven't been infobox squabbles in ages. I personally use them all the time now for biographies and operas. There are a few diehards left, but the general attitude from both perspectives seems to have settled on live and let live." So why is it that some still can't settle on live and let live? - The next cookbook author is scheluded to appear as TFA (with a nice infobox btw, as the last), and I will keep the usual thanks to the creator for myself as insistent, but I don't understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love the artwork of Arik Brauer — nicely done! Ah, the vicissitudes of infoboxen, its ebbs and and flow. What a peculiar thing it is. El_C 14:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, it doesn't. It could just ebb. In 2018, it was no concern. Why is it now? Why can't we just edit the little boxes as other content: someone adds, and if someone reverts, consensus needs to be established. Instead, someone adding, or requesting, or just asking where it went, is considered a warrior. The question where it went often goes like this: when a certain group of editors expanded an article, they collapsed it (thinking that was a compromise, but making life harder for those having physical trouble to click the "show" button). That caused a little edit-war, which was "resolved" by taking it away completely, with a discussion like this on the talk following. Ever since, we have been reminded that there was this consensus not to have one, and we are supposed to believe that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For sure, I am like-minded with you in that interpretation. WP:ONUS should generally be observed, like elsewhere. Indeed, there really isn't an excuse for not doing so. In theory, per WP:ARBINFOBOX2, WP:ACDS allows admins to just straight-up make it (ONUS) a requirement by adding Consensus required to intractable infobox disputes. My sense is that most admins just do not want to touch these because it usually ends up amounting to a zero-sum game, at best — myself, I don't really engage infobox disputes in an AE capacity, because the history and politics AE topic areas keep me busy enough (diff). El_C 16:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There are almost no "intractable infobox disputes", really, so DS serves no purpose. The problem is that a newcomer who has no idea of a minefield is treated as a warrior. - I love your translations. We should have more us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, understood. Admittedly, I do not have a firm grasp of what's happening on the infobox front. RE: translations. Many thanks! I appreciate your praise very much. Also Val's. Strange how it took me hours and hours to do the first one, an hour to do the second one, and 30 minutes to do the third one. But I think I'm now finally satisfied with the final form of all three translations, so at least I'm done with the constant tinkering (though not to jinx it!). El_C 16:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For more understanding: imagine - if you can, it takes courage - for a moment that back in 2012, the infobox had been kept as it had been for years then already. Imagine. - Certainly thanks to presentation here, Arik Brauer made it to the stats, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Play Bach

How do you like this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Enjoy the music, and make it last. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(As) I always do, Gerda! Yours always, El_C 12:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Great music offer! - What do you think of the start of Reception, - the little prince never gives up a question. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not usually a fan of princes, but here's one that really did music-it-up! El_C 12:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agree about Johann Ernst! The Little Prince never gives up a question, "the prince has golden hair, a lovable laugh, and will repeat questions until they are answered". How do you like the beginning of reception? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One of my favourite books growing up... Reception looks great to me. I think he did a fine job. Top tier musicology. El_C 16:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, but who is "he"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"You know, that guy — who always wore a shirt." Oh, sorry, did you write that, with him just having merged it? It's a low attention span -day today, so brace yourself! El_C 17:04, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nonono, I could never write such a thing (+ I'm not a "he" as the writer is, and yes, the obvious "he" just merged it). Two ways to the answer: you follow the links in the edit summary (better the second), or you look at the new article's talk page. Unless you just guess why I come to you of all people with this question, and may guess right. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A riddle — noo! There better not be a math and science test at the end of this! El_C 17:21, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

test? first question in this thread has one (!) link, leading to the initial entry of a new article, with two (but I said better second) links, with the second leading to where an estimated 95% of the content came from. [2] - a fine job, indeed, not my style, but fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hoping for a D-. That would be about right. El_C 17:57, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

An unblock would do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda, for reasons which are my own, attending to this dispute, in any administrative capacity, just isn't something I wish to engage at this time. Sorry. El_C 20:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Understand. Appreciation of outstanding work is better. You can tell other admins where the clue is - my lead image until 2021 came, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, happy to pass on genuine positive impressions, always. Yes, I do. Breathtaking, primordial. El_C 22:26, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"at times heavy to carry" (quoting myself still from the same page which also has the model for Precious, did you see? - the cabal of the outcast, - I told Bus stop four years ago, feel like Cassandre) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And that's very much okay to express. Also, we can be in diametric opposition about whatever from time to time. That is also okay. El_C 23:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Psalm 12 when you have time - what happened? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have just set up an alternative account, Narky Blert (alt), so that I can edit logged-in until I can regain access to my main account, Narky Blert. (Condensed story - I fell ill in early December, with the result that I was admitted to hospital having being found unconscious after three days. I was discharged after a week, and consider myself recovered. An annoying side-effect was that I broke my PC, and am having trouble in recovering my PWs (that should be possible, but I'm having to rely on third parties).)

To comply with WP:ALTACC, I want to edit User:Narky Blert to add:

{{User alternative account name|Narky Blert (alt)}}

{{-}}

at the top, and

[[Category:Wikipedia alternative accounts]]

at the bottom. However, as a newly-registered user, I cannot. Could I ask you to do this for me?

As a token of good faith, I offer you "Bella ciao" - [3], which strikes me as right up your street. Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 15:02, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Holy shit! So sorry to hear that, but glad you're on the mend. For sure, I'll get right on that. Wow, that's nuts. Thanks for the song. Glad to have you back, but take it easy, please! Jeez. El_C 15:10, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'm feeling better now than I have for months; I must have been building up to that episode which landed me in hospital. Now, if only I could do something about the misbegotten ISP I'm currently on... Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 17:34, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

But you made it, that's the most important thing! I love you, bwo! El_C 17:47, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You recently blocked 182.93.4.83; they are using 116.193.14.19 to evade that block.

It may also be a good idea to semiprotect the articles that they are targeting, particularly U.S. News & World Report Best Global University Ranking, QS World University Rankings, and Times Higher Education World University Rankings. ElKevbo (talk) 16:27, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gottttttttttttttt. El_C 16:49, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear User:El C, I trust that you read my report at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Increase before taking action in which I indicated that I was reverting persistent additions of copyright violations. If you still feel that the block was necessary, however, that is fine too. Thanks, Anupam^Talk 09:42, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I read it and just posted my summary there. El_C 09:46, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate that you read it. However, I linked the evidence on User:Anzan7's talk page here. The persistent additions were copied and pasted from this personal website. Thanks for taking the time to have a look. Kind regards, Anupam^Talk 09:51, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That should have been in your RfPP request. I'll have a look. El_C 09:53, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize that it was not User:El C. I'd appreciate an unblock if you can confirm what I stated. Thank you for taking the time to have a look. Respectfully, Anupam^Talk 09:56, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. I've lifted your p-block. El_C 10:03, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks User:El_C. I'd be grateful if you could also make that clear on my talk page. I appreciate that you took the time to examine this more closely. Editing since 2006, I wouldn't have reverted that many times if it wasn't for a copyright violation. With regards, Anupam^Talk 10:06, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anupam, like a broken record, I keep telling users: if you're gonna invoke WP:3RRNO, make it explicit that you are doing so, and why (in the edit summaries themselevs, so that the other party or parties know of your claim for an exemption which they do not enjoy). Sure np, I'll get right on that. El_C 10:10, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @El C:, Can you protect page upon personal request? Fade258 (talk) 11:47, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Ordinarily, no. Unless connected to a previous action of mine. But I always accept urgent requests, like ones involving WP:HARASS, WP:COPYVIO and WP:BLP (and needless to say, WP:CHILDPROTECT or any kind of WP:EMERGENCY). El_C 11:53, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Thank you ! Fade258 (talk) 11:59, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Could you possibly protect ya neck? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:03, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I promise to never do crime again. El_C 12:30, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You recently revoked TPA for Zezen (talk · contribs · global contribs · logs · block log). They have been posting rants[4][5] on other projects, many of which refer to me, which is annoying. Would Zezen be a good candidate for a global block?

Related: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive325#User:Zezen

--Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 16:45, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I dunno, I've never done it before, but probably...? It's the Nazi, right? El_C 19:54, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yup. Nazi, anti-LGBT ranter. :( If I understand the procedure correctly, an admin has to decide that the user should be globally blocked and them post a request at Steward_requests/Global. --Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 22:59, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Steward_requests/Global#Global_lock_for_Zezen. El_C 23:12, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Followup:

• meta:Steward requests/Global/2022-w07#Global lock for Zezen
• meta:Steward requests/Global permissions/2019-11#Global IP block exempt for Zezen
• The 186 pages Zezen has edited

--Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 16:37, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I thought the bad Meta was that-a-way, what do you know. El_C 16:42, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just a suggestion that Mjazac might need an eye on him. His topic ban is long expired, but he's claiming that "reactionaries" prevented moves of historical mentions of Kiev to Kyiv here [6] and refusing to apologize or admit that this is an insult. I don't think this bodes well when he starts a new discussion about it at Kyiv as he wants to.--Ermenrich (talk) 20:20, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ermenrich, my suggestion is to take any issues directly to ArbCom. I'm not sanctioning this admin a 2nd time. The whole thing about whether an admin under sanctions should even retain their advanced permissions, that remains a murky and contested subject. So, as mentioned, I, at least, am not inclined to take this on myself, again. El_C 20:57, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Understood, thanks. Hopefully it won't come to that, but it seems like a chronic problem.--Ermenrich (talk) 20:59, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Could you protect the page Matzoon? There is currently a high level disruption ongoing from both new accounts and IPs alike. I noticed this was already reported in RPP, but no protection as of yet. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 11:20, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'd like to request to upgrade the protection for United States page as many editors are seeming to take advantage of less protection on the page, i.e., editing disputes. And in my opinion, such pages should be given high-level of protection as USA is not just an important country, but it is widely recognized as well due to its foreign affairs and interference in different conflicts as well. As I'm not an admin, I don't have the power to upgrade protection on any article, neither would I be selected for becoming an admin if ever requested :(. ArnavSharma602 (talk) 13:59, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Please submit protection requests to WP:RFPP/I rather than on my talk page, ArnavSharma602, unless of an especial urgency. I see you've already done this and that it was declined. El_C 14:04, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, right, I'm the protecting admin. Please disregard. Sorry about that, ArnavSharma602. El_C 14:13, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, but requesting is of no use either, coz they won't upgrade protection. Thanks for the reply tho !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArnavSharma602 (talk • contribs) 14:54, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ArnavSharma602, that's because it fails to meet the criteria outlined in the protection policy at this time. Regards, El_C 15:33, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi El C, I noticed that you semi-protected 45th Canadian federal election for "persistent disruptive editing". I was going to go to WP:RFPP to make a request for unprotection, but I wanted to talk to you first since you are the admin that semi-protected the article and to see if you would be willing to reconsider. It looks like the disruptive edits were made by a single IP over a 12-hour period. I'm not sure that's considered "persistent" and blocking the IP seems to be sufficient. At this point, I don't think semi-protecting the article for three weeks is warranted. 2604:3D09:8879:31A0:51A6:D0F9:ABB4:FD84 (talk) 18:35, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. Right, for that day. But 2 days prior, there was disruption from a different IP (diff), and 2 days prior to that, disruption from yet another IP (diff). And these aren't the only ones. That said, if you can commit to keeping an eye on the page, I'm open to unprotecting in, say, a week instead of the 3 weeks that's currently assigned. El_C 18:52, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Bread and Roses" - sung by Bronwen Lewis. Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 08:54, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good song, good movie. I'm more of a For Bread And Peace man myself, but I welcome the roses. El_C 15:03, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lousy prophet, wasn't he? Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 19:58, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't count my chickens yet, my friend. El_C 20:01, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Following his two week editing block [7], User:DePiep seems to be unable to drop the stick over what is now relatively ancient history[8][9][10]. Appreciate any assistance you could provide. I am FYI pinging @Gog the Mild: who is one of the FAC coordinators. Thank you. Sandbh (talk) 09:49, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@FAC coordinators: pinging my FAC colleagues in case they wish to contradict my opinion. Which is that DePiep's queries seem perfectly civil to me, and I have no problem with them being posed on the FAC talk page. You are, of course, entirely free to ignore them. I say this as a non-admin and with no knowledge of the history of uncivil editing; I was not even aware that DePiep had been blocked. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:57, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbh, unless there's something egregious, I'm unlikely to act wrt this user. Regards, El_C 15:04, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks El_C, and @Gog the Mild: for the prompt responses. My concern was that in User:DePiep posting what he did, namely…

"Please help me out: did you attack [italics added] more editors in there, unpingerd?"

…DePeip insinuated that I attacked other FAC editors.

Aside from being incivil, unhelpful, and outdated (the FAC in question closed on Jan 18th) it upsets me to have my reputation impugned in this way.

I'd appreciate your perspective on my perspective, so to speak. I don't want to belabour the point; I only want to to know where the civil/incivil behaviour benchmark lies. Sandbh (talk) 04:36, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, it's just taxing to interact with them, so they would need to do something pretty egregious for me to do anything about it (again). That doesn't mean that they haven't done anything sanction-worthy (like violations to Wikipedia:Editing_restrictions#DePiep). File a report in any of the usual places if you deem it to be so. El_C 05:03, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Closing this one out, I extended an olive branch of civil behaviour to DePiep but there does not seem to be anyone home. FYI. Sandbh (talk) 04:26, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

El_C, this behaviour by Sandbh appears to be trolling/gaming the system/... Not only on your talkpage here (multiple times; note the pings missing). Obviously ignoring does not fix it. Since you took offence for me defending my own case, my non-cynical question is: how do you advise me to respond? -DePiep (talk) 09:26, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have no advise. El_C 10:15, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Think this constitutes a legal threat. Your thoughts? --Kansas Bear (talk) 14:00, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User(s) blocked: Havvanzy (talk · contribs) blocked by Black Kite. El_C 15:06, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to have clogged up your talk page, El C.--Kansas Bear (talk) 15:17, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All good, Kansas Bear. El_C 15:34, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the Page was since long abandoned and with the http://www.lexicarbrasil.com.br/ starting doing all manufactures according, alphabetically. Herr Matheus did some small things, much after, when saw I did a tremendous good job including... After he went crazy and took the fight to rewrite, not in my way logic of thing, but wrongly in him mentality, not like me the 1980ies but those new generations of 2000ies. Then the Chantilly buttered. His common errors, why my version is much better : 1. What is 'large', 'small' or 'independent' ? A buggy BRM company is private independent like a Ford imo 2. RR Brasil has Araquari BMW factory subsidiary as support. Via Italia is a very small dealer only, neither industry, neither do any service on cars, just sell some 3. The companies who did small prototypes in quantity of just some parts as customs where from me with 'former' and those without which still exists today as industry or manufacturer. Not dealer. Just, for example, when a Ford Dealer like Grancar, me and my ex father went a lot in the 1990ies for refit our 1978 Ford Landau, saw the services, it is not a design company, like wrongly in template Matheus did, but the do a Fibre Futura Van, because the Ford dealer non-existent in Rua Frei Caneca, did several refurbishments in Ford Del Rey, Versailles etc and they also produced the Futura.

So I am with much higher level of knowledge than this Matheus... but wiki we can not trust as seems, Regards --188.109.177.148 (talk) 16:19, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Stop harassing Matheus, IP, or you and all other IPs and accounts representing you will become persona non grata on this website. No comment on the content. Bring it to the article talk, politely, please. The facts, presented cogently and without posturing, is what's needed now. El_C 16:23, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't get why he's been like this, I even proposed a shared contribution and got swearing instead; he's just trolling and harassing, I honestly don't care at all, but he's doing with everyone, everywhere, even admins, being racist, etc. Just why; I'm not a good redactor but even I have some standards and decency.

Cheers, Herr Matheus (talk) 17:19, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Herr Matheus, who is he? Is there a master I can use as a point of reference? El_C 18:49, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know who he is, he keeps changing IP over and over (I've tracked some*)

I don't know what you mean by master (perhaps a main account* or some specific action?);

*My suspect is under @SeasSoul, he uploaded a image minutes before the IP user added it to the article (guess he ain't block anymore or the block won't affect Commons); the user was banned and has a mention to 'Museu Nacional' in a reported summary, being in Portuguese don't prove anything, however, the "way of speaking" is the same so...) **I BET MY MONEY ON HIM**

Best regards, Herr Matheus (talk) 20:09, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Herr Matheus, by "master" I mean WP:SOCK master (i.e. master of sockpuppets → puppetmaster). Thanks for the info. If anyone harasses you again, feel free to report them directly to me here. Regards, El_C 01:43, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello El_C! I believe that you're aware of the problems at the Katherine Delmar Burke School article. It was under full protection; the talk page is semi-protected. As the protection of the article has expired, an IP editor is adding what seems like mountains of irrelevant and dubious content to the article. (Dubious doesn't even begin to describe it.) Their unstructured style of editing where they create a lot of sections reminds me of the editor who was flooding the talk page, and whom you blocked. The last normal revision of the article seems to be this

That being said, here is my question: What should someone like me do in this situation? Should I talk to the IP editor on their talk page? Should I do a large number of reverts and removals? It's hard for me to even read all of this material due to it's frankly unpalatable nature. tw^sabin 21:17, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Twsabin: I had just asked this same question here but blanked it and requested indefinite protection instead. I am convinced the solution is to revert to this revision or earlier. SpinningCeres 21:26, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the ping. The Feb. 8 revision seems acceptable too. I suppose that you did the better thing by requesting protection. tw^sabin 21:32, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Twsabin and SpinningCeres: that IP is has been blocked from the page (/64). As for reporting: WP:AIV, WP:RFPP/I or WP:ANI are all venues that can be used to repot WP:PROMO and other disruptive edits. It's often difficult communicating directly with an IPV6 IP on their talk page because whatever IPV4 they use at any given time might get reassigned, also at any given time. I didn't quite understand what was meant by unpalatable nature, however, Twsabin (unpalatable how?). El_C 01:15, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Unpalatable for me: the facile treatment of bullying, when it isn't relevant, just to cruft up the article. tw^sabin 01:45, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay... I didn't understand that. Anyway, feel free to drop me a line here if disruption resumes on that page. El_C 01:49, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, El C. Manishrajput203001 (talk · contribs) was created just after Manishrajput6395 (talk · contribs) was indef blocked for promotional editing. An SPI has been opened about the same. -- Ab207 (talk) 14:33, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked indefinitely. El_C 11:45, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I'd also like to request you to re-assess the page protection of Badhaai Do. The user who added the disputed content has been inactive since then. As the page is full protected, it has become difficult to update new content post its release and edit requests are piling up at the talk page. -- Ab207 (talk) 12:54, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. Unprotected. El_C 15:28, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! -- Ab207 (talk) 15:30, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, El C. I understand that there was a good reason to protect List of programming languages since there were tons of pointless edits/vandalism (and my reverts didn't help as much as I thought they did). (Btw, this has probably been caused by this post). But it seems to me that the class of protection is more heavy-handed than was necessary. Reading WP:PP it seems that Extended-confirmed protection is applicable (among others) when "pages where semi-protection has failed", which I don't think has been the case. And having a quick glance at the list of extended confirmed protected pages suggests that the majority of those pages in there have a much higher risk of malicious edits. IMO it would have been appropriate to semi-protect that page. Is there something that I'm missing? Rentar (talk) 11:39, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rentar, when there are confirmed users involved in disrupting a page, that's when WP:ECP becomes appropriate (because obviously WP:SEMI would have no effect on those enjoying this user right). This is not a particularly high-profile page, and considering the off-wiki stuff, I'm comfortable with ECP for 2 weeks. WP:NOTBURO. El_C 11:44, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Girth Summit pinged you a while ago, but just in case you have notifications turned off or missed the ping: do you have any comments you want to make before I address the unblock request? --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:48, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I missed it. No, no comment. Feel free to take over the un/block and resolve it as you see fit. El_C 16:53, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Sorry if this was supposed to be placed above the music; it wasn't clear to me, and the "+" button put me here. --Floquenbeam (talk)

You're welcome. Above, below, it's all good. Drinker's choice. El_C 16:58, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted something sweet for dessert this evening, and I had some thin mints that I bought from my niece, so I figured that would be good. I got the cookies, and a mug of milk, but no matter how I dunk the cookies, they don't get soft. I've tried nibbling the chocolate coating off, breaking them in half, everything I can think of, to no avail. How can I get a nice soft thin mint that has absorbed milk? Please respond within 5 minutes, or my milk will no longer be ice cold. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:39, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Disregard, out of cookies. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:43, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ScottishFinnishRadish: Dunk in bourbon next time, works better. tw^sabin 01:07, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mint and bourbon? Maybe with the caramel delights, but those are always gone too quick. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:11, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For most fresh/ripe milk, follow the wisdom of Sheriff Cornwood and be one with the cow. Also, it's the law(l). El_C 01:19, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Once you've dipped in Baileys Irish Cream that's all you'll want. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 05:41, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's something else. I know I have a headache. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 05:39, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I just realized they've actually used diffs before (here). This is so bizarre. El_C 09:05, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Long COVID. Don't look at the UTRS. Bad for your health. I finally fixed my headache w/ Bailey's + chocolate liqueur + Amaretto. (Then they popped up on IRC). --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:39, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello EL C, seems blocked user Vnkd have returned with a new IP account. He reverts other users edits on the same article. S-300 1st, 2nd, [11]. Also at Northtop F-5 article. 1st, 2nd.

Also IP likely to be Vnkd, becasue of you look at their edit history at January 24, 2021 he vandalizes your talk page. Vnkd was blocked on January 19 and Ind blocked on January 26. Mr.User200 (talk) 14:04, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mr.User200, if you feel like you have a strong case, maybe take it to WP:SPI...? I don't have too firm recollection of the background here, I'm afraid. El_C 16:46, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello El_C, the user keeps making the same inflammatory remarks on its edit summary, and here too.Mr.User200 (talk) 11:14, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked – for a period of one month. Mr.User200, please don't edit war on that IP's talk page. They are allowed to blank it, which you are not allowed to undo. El_C 11:48, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Understood El_C, I wont do that again. But seems he is using a new IP now. Past edits by Blocked IP 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th. And now with this new IP.Mr.User200 (talk) 18:46, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Again is using another new IP for the same disruptive edits, also reverting other editors edits. I recommend a extended confirmed protection in the page. Succesive blocks won't stop him.Mr.User200 (talk) 01:06, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This man is trying to have the full monopoly of that list (not just that, to be honest). He uses twitter or ASN or fighterjetworld or whatever else as a source for this own, then remove info if you use twitter or the same, he wants to list derelict airframes, while in Syria he removed derelict airframes... I mean. Let's get someone from the aviation project involved. be fair! I can suggest people like BilCat or Nigel Ish or Fnlayson. This is what he wants to set: [12] it's all fighterjetworld, ASN and twitter. grammar mistakes and wrong listing. If you break it down, the real un-matching points are two: 1. listing decrepit airframes as they were in active service. and here I say let's have someone from the aviation project decide on that... remembering that if that is the case, that same case is valid for all the other lists. 2. based on a twitter analisys saying there are 2 Su-25s instead of one. Again I say, let's have someone from the aviation project to have a look and decide. But again, if twitter is a source, then that has to be valid for all the lists. And my last point: this article should be split, that's rather major. Instead of edit warring with me on minor points, why doesn't he start doing it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.4.230.207. (talk) 10:36, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, you wanna have a normal conversation, 194.4.230.207? After you had wished me the worst and so on using 194.4.230.55? That's fucked up. Maybe if you were to use article talk pages like everyone else (what makes you so special?), maybe if you were to stop block evading and, otherwise, show a little restraint... Anyway, appeal on the original account is your only legit way back in. Out. El_C 11:05, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I Went to a Marvellous Party - link, by Patricia Routledge. Narky Blert (talk) 21:17, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

🍷 Love it! 🍸 El_C 00:31, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Our article on partygate is too long for anyone to digest, so I'll just post a relevant pic and a new verse. Narky Blert (talk) 08:42, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi El_C. Some time ago, user Brandmeister closed an RfC as "no consensus", despite being an involved editor and voting in the same RfC, with quite the comments against opposition. If you remember, you overturned that closure, Talk:2020_Nagorno-Karabakh_ceasefire_agreement#Involved_close_overturned,_discussion_re-opened. This disruptive closure wasn't reported or anything either.

I just noticed that yesterday, another RfC was closed in AA, Talk:Shusha#RFC_on_Nersesov_and_others, this time in correct procedure by a 3rd party editor Brandmister requested himself. Problem is, Brandmeister then proceeds to go directly against the RfC, and modifies the wording (diff). If wording is the problem, as he says in the diff, he could've easily just added "as well as" and be done with it. There was no consensus to mention that author's ethnicity as you can see from the RfC, for various reasons discussed. And the closer didn't think any side was considerably stronger than the other, so my guess is that's why it was closed as no consensus. Most importantly, Brandmeister's edit directly goes against the RfC. This is the second time Brandmeister shows major CIR issues in regard to RfCs. As you were involved in the first case, I thought to notify you instead of opening a report. I don't know what's happening in AA, I'm humbly asking for your opinion. I didn't revert them either, as I don't want to start a potential revert spree or something. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 18:56, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The issue has been resolved now by removing the mention of ethnicities altogether and amid no consensus at RfC I agree with that. My original rationale behind my edit there was that as long as ethnicites are mentioned, they should be consistent with corresponding articles and since Mirza Yusuf Nersesov's article describes him as Armenian, so should the Shusha article. But, again, I'm personally satisfied with the removal. Brandmeister^talk 19:21, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, can you please check Al Hilal F.C.–Esteghlal F.C. rivalry history? This user is deaf. Lyrische (talk) 13:46, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lyrische, in the future, unless it is a matter of an especial urgency (i.e. WP:BLP, WP:NLT, WP:EMERGENCY, WP:CHILDPROTECT, etc.), I'd prefer for these requests to be posted in the usual places (WP:AIV, WP:ANI, WP:AN3, WP:RFPP/I, etc.). I see that the last edit was by an admin (Bbb23, who has been issuing blocks), so presumably, he's keeping an eye. Regards, El_C 14:00, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Editor, on several occasions the user Aayat1998, of Indian origin, has been deleting information or destroying articles including the Miss Teen International article that was destroyed by the aforementioned user and took an editor to rebuild. This time he moved the article from Miss Teen Earth, the official name of the pageant, to Miss Teen Earth International, since he intends to make believe that there is another Miss Teen Earth pageant and that it is a separate pageant organization. An administrator placed an indefinite protection on the article Miss Teen Earth, the same one that has been celebrated as such since 2012. As editor of the article, I request that it be renamed Miss Teen Earth since that is the real name of the contest and the title that the winner gets annually. Also that an administrator place a warning to the user Aayat1998, for wanting to maliciously to hinder the work of other editors. Yahsabaot (talk) 01:53, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Extended confirmed protected for a period of 3 weeks, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Yahsabaot, I don't know why you mention of Indian origin for no apparent reason, but it's weird and I don't like it. It's also bad form to copy the same message onto multiple users' talk pages. You and other disputants are expected to make use of the article talk (Talk:Miss Teen Earth International), which has never been used by a human before, not a good sign as far as this dispute goes. Anyway, that is the correct venue to resolve the dispute. Recommend you review the documentation at WP:DR, WP:DRR. El_C 02:13, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry if my comment regarding the nationality of the user was misunderstood, since it was he who said he was Indian and had ties to an Indian beauty pageant organization in the talk of the Miss Teen International article where he created a dispute, it is not about discrimination, just try to identify the user who claims to be from India and has been deleting information and destroying articles. My mother tongue is Spanish, perhaps there are expressions in Spanish that don't sound good when translated into English. I understand that the protection will end in three weeks, thank you very much for your explanation, it is valuable. Yahsabaot (talk) 02:24, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, Yahsabaot, indeed maybe lost in translation + expecting an outside reader to make those connections. Also, best not to attribute to malice what may well be a good faith error. Assume good faith. Anyway, glad I could help. Hope the dispute ends up resolving amicably (maybe there's a compromise that both sides could agree to). G'luck & happy editing. El_C 02:32, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There’s always something new to learn, you are very kind, have a wonderful weekend. Yahsabaot (talk) 02:46, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate the kind words, Yahsabaot. Hope you have a great weekend, too! El_C 06:32, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Yahsabaot (talk) 06:42, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want to make any wise remarks, but there is really something that makes this rv and edit-summary "bewildering" [13]--౪ Santa ౪^99° 04:50, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ARBCOM enforcement LGBT in Islam

Now that dust has settled a little bit, would you as an enforcing administrator be kind to to reconsider your original decision.--౪ Santa ౪^99° 12:23, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I said that I recommend you appeal in 6 months, not 6 hours. El_C 12:58, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I understand, it's a recommendation.--౪ Santa ౪^99° 13:40, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay...? El_C 13:48, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are confusing me El, I am really unable to say if you are genuinely asking me to explain or is just sarcastic deterrence, have I got it right or not - last time you posted this "Okay" three dots, question mark, back there at ANI, I tried to respond in casual tone and you changed yours from casual to hostile, so I had to explain myself for that too. I would gladly say what is on my mind, if only I could be sure that you are really interested and not just like "so what" or what ever.--౪ Santa ౪^99° 14:18, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Santasa99, I'm not being hostile, I'm expressing my puzzlement. El_C 14:22, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why? I was really concerned that I transgressed in another arbitrary excess when I asked for reconsideration. It was not pleasant to here "I said six months not six hours" - what could I expect from there was not clear to me.--౪ Santa ౪^99° 14:34, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Santasa99, I'm not sure how clear the documentation is, so I'll lay this out for you. Now that I've declined your appeal to me directly, these are your remaining appeal options (you may choose whichever one works for you): appeal to the community at WP:AN, or to a quorum of uninvolved admins at WP:AE, or to the Committee itself at WP:ARCA. Hope this clears things up. Thanks. El_C 14:31, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My laptop is overheating or Internet lagging, so I apologize for the edit-conflict posts - yes, thanks it's helpful, these are clear options.--౪ Santa ౪^99° 14:38, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are probably bewildered because why would I appeal something which is not my area of interest anyway, thinking that I anxious to get back there and get my way, but what bothers me in reality is the fact that I never disrupted project beyond few warnings for 3RR in decade and a half, and when confronted with what I tried to illustrate with ANI, I feel, I was let down, not to mention ABAN.--౪ Santa ౪^99° 14:58, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Inserted reply) I'm sorry, scraping this, then, I interpreted it as seeking clarification.--౪ Santa ౪^99° 18:36, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Santasa99, sorry, I don't really have that much to add right now that I haven't already said here and elsewhere. El_C 16:08, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Alexa Demie (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I was going to request page protection for this article, but you had already put it in place for the ips. Now we have a couple editors joining in. Suggestions welcome: Full protection, handle the editors individually, something else? --Hipal (talk) 18:29, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Extended confirmed protected for the duration. El_C 19:33, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Much appreciated. --Hipal (talk) 19:38, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are involved in a recently-filed request for clarification or amendment from the Arbitration Committee. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Clarification request: Palestine-Israel articles and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the Wikipedia:Arbitration guide may be of use.

Thanks, GeneralNotability (talk) 19:28, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll check it out. El_C 19:32, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The clarification request Non-ARBPIA Western Asia disruption has been closed and archived to Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment/Archive 121 § Clarification request: Non-ARBPIA Western Asia disruption (February 2022). For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 13:57, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Lord Kitchener - My Landlady
• JLH - House Rent Boogie

Narky Blert (talk) 14:02, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nice! See also the Tupelo entry in the songspam for some choice JLH. That said, The Landlady. El_C 12:44, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've been misgendered plenty of times on the Internet. If I ever sound bitter about it, it's because I see a person is being willfully ignorant about my feelings on the matter. Laurel Lodged, in this instance, managed to track down my azwiki page in order to criticize my having a link to Azerbaijani proverbs but couldn't be bothered to notice the bolded notice on my enwiki userpage that says I use they/them pronouns? I'm doubtful. Sure, maybe he forgot, but maybe he didn't. In the latter case, it gets to be a fun little insult that I only get to notice. If it's the former, then I have no sympathy for someone being too careless to check while in the middle of criticizing me.
I will also bring your attention to this line: [MJL themself] declares that [they have] a personal page on Azeri Wiki. It's clearly referencing User:MJL#Alternate user pages. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 16:30, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MJL, I'm pretty much in transit, but briefly, as I said, put it in your sig if those mistake upsets you. I don't know what Laurel Lodged intended. I don't have some special insight into their soul. It's a mistake that can happen innocently is the point, to anyone. People forget, people overlook, people conflate, etc. Why not be gracious about it, like Fæ was with me? What is there to lose by erring on the side of AGF? El_C 17:09, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[Thank you for the ping] El_C, I like my signature exactly the way it is. I'm not changing it lol
I don't think you get why I find this particular example upsetting me. For now, I will just say I am still awaiting a response on his part. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 17:57, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MJL, sorry, but the expectation would then be for you to explain it better for me, the uninvolved admin who brought this matter to your attention. Anyway, I'm still not sure what you hope to accomplish from this line inquiry (still awaiting a response). What do you expect them to say? I did it to stick it to you? Try to detach yourself for sec, as challenging as that may be. And what's so lol about my sig suggestion, I don't understand. Unlike my default sig, you already have a modified one. If you like its aesthetic, then, okay. Just trying to help. El_C 18:20, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the lol thing, I was trying to make myself not sound that serious. I understand that you are only trying to help. However, it's not the first time I have gotten that suggestion before. I don't like it for several reasons for many reasons, and it's all incredibly personal for me. That's why I just said lol because I'm not trying to make you feel bad for suggesting it.
If you want an explanation, I wrote one out already: (1) My pronouns are at the top of my enwiki user page. (2) They are also on Meta. (3) Laurel Lodge seemingly looked through several of my user pages. (4) Laurel Lodge read enough details on my user pages to be able to point out the fact I link to a list of Azerbaijani proverbs. (5) Laurel Lodge has zero reason to assume I am a guy. (6) Laurel Lodge is not you. If he was, I'd forgive you in a heartbeat. (7) Laurel Lodge has not apologised nor bothered to correct himself despite editing since then. (8) I am not going to forgive someone who hasn't even said sorry to me. (9) I have literally been through this twenty times by now in my three years editing. I have never held it against anyone who either corrected themselves or apologized. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 03:55, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@MJL, you can also set your preferences to show they/them when people hover over your username in Preferences>User profile>Global preferences. valereee (talk) 18:40, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Valereee: phab:T61643. They/Them pronouns don't work like that on a software level as far as I am aware. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 03:56, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy ping for Valereee. MJL, I'm not 100% sure your attempt at fixing the ping failed, but it's possible MediaWiki parsed your edit as a modification of existing lines and not a new line addition. Firefangledfeathers 04:07, 21 February 2022 (UTC) Firefangledfeathers 04:07, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, sorry, MJL, for some reason I thought that had been fixed! valereee (talk) 11:49, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MJL, that's the thing: you went hard on them in pointing it out, and lest we forget that them using the wrong pronoun and your hard-correction that followed, that whole thing took place in your ANI complaint against them (a complaint in which you were the OP). That makes an WP:APOLOGY also harder. So the context, if not also tone, was already quite negative, negativity which a soft-correction could have helped remedy.

And it doesn't matter that the correct pronoun was noted on your user page (or even if it were to have been added to your sig prior), because, again, those mistakes will happen, regardless, and more often than not, innocently. Sometime, that lapse can even be seen to have happened due to the person being neurodivergent. Sometime, it happens when someone is 'neurotypical,' but still suffer from the occasional neuroatypical (or neuroatypical-like) moment of sorts. Like maybe with how I, above, had written: if those mistake upsets you — of course, it should have been if those mistakes upsets you. Though to quote Dr. Grande, I'm not here to diagnose anyone.

Obviously, that error by me ('mistake/upsets') is a trivial one, but more serious ones might happen often enough, too, however you define or describe the reasoning behind these, including whether they were made in good or bad faith (which I don't think one could safely speculate on on the basis of a singular mistake). Beyond all of this, there's a saying in Hebrew that roughly translates into: 'peace is made with one's enemies rather than with friends.' I'd change "enemies" into opponents, but otherwise, I think there's a lot of wisdom to that maxim. HTH. Best regards, El_C 08:05, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There's a difference between an innocent mistake and willful mistake. When you are intently reading my userpage for any amount of dirt you can find and miss the bolded text which says my pronouns, then that stops being an innocent mistake. That's what I find upsetting. Our social policies are not a suicide pact. I have no obligation to be soft on a person I suspect was intentionally trying to upset me (which would've been the case without the misgendering mind you). The burden is not on me or you to find excuses for Laurel's actions. If any of the things you mentioned are true about him, then he should be the one to say as much.
Also, regardless if I was mean about this or not; he has not corrected himself which I find completely unacceptable. Even if he didn't want to apologise, even if he didn't want to admit it was dumb mistake; that is the bare minimum standard I have for people on this website. There is no excuse for him not to correct himself the moment he found out.
So I ask you this, why has he not stricken the misgendering pronouns and replaced them with the ones that I actually use? How can I possibly engage in good faith with a person unwilling to do that? –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 16:42, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how, MJL, so maybe you should disengage — not sure what other alternative you have in mind. For the record, it took me a second to find it when I looked for it on your user page yesterday. It isn't in large text or colours, so had I not been looking for it, specifically, I may well have not noticed it. Tolerance often is a double-edged sword. Anyway, I'm kinda done with this. It's starting to feel circular at this point, sorry. See ya. El_C 16:51, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Further explanation

El C, I think I owe you an explanation. I read your comment again, and I want to clarify some things. Let me start by genocide denial, and that I have no tolerance to any form of it. My great-grandparetns on both parents' side, just like with most Armenians, were genocide survivors who went through great hardship just to survive. I think as a Jewish person you can sympathize with me. When I saw Solavirum's explanation regarding the userbox and "changed" comment, I personally wasn't impressed. While I know that it's a risk to recognize the Armenian genocide in Azerbaijan, Solavirum went out of his way to create that denial userbox. If they were afraid about the risks, they could've just stayed silent. Their Western Academia claims since 2018 didn't impress me either, as apparent by their 2021 edit Maragha Massacre and other nationalist POV push just lat year.

When it comes to the involved/uninvolved part, I wasn't the only person confused. Under another tban discussion, user just like me [14] was also thinking that only admins can vote in AE tban appeals. And here, we come to the vote part. After Solavirum's comment and their 2019 vote evidence of them being against denial, MJL voted Support for the appeal and questioned legitimate concerns of another user. I personally thought they may have at least a slight bias towards Solavirum, as they were part of that vote and missed Solavirum's vote text entirely, which is crucial for context. And I made sure to actually check the vote, and as I pointed out, Solavirum only opposed to "so-called" part to "make the reader understand that the genocide is fabricated". In other words, per Solavirum, it's not a good look to openly state genocide denial in the title, it's better to make the reader understand it's fabricated instead. Truly makes you see the inside of one's mind.

After I pointed this out (after checking with multiple translators), Solavirum started claiming it as "out of context". I reminded them that the context is there and multiple translations disagree with them. Shortly after, they dropped the appeal. This is my side of the story El_C, thank you for your patience. If you have any other concerns or want to elaborate further, please let me know. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 18:49, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And if you think I should contact ArbCom regarding my other statements, I would do so. I don't know how though, as I've never done so before. I would appreciate if you could advise me how to open an ArbCom case / email or whatever it's called. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 18:54, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ZaniGiovanni: I fully will admit I am partial towards Solavirum. I still have no idea why you would think that any of that goodwill came from his 2019 vote. Honestly, that you brought it up in that context made me really confused. Like, I did a ton of work at azwiki despite not knowing the language. It's the first time anyone on enwiki has ever mentioned it, and it's evidence I am bias in favour of the people who I readily admitted to clashing with on there? (For context behind the diff, I completely forgot that Solavirum said what he said in the 2019 vote (or honestly the fact that he voted) until someone brought it up at WP:AN recently. Remember, I don't speak the language.) –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 04:20, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MJL thank you for being honest, I appreciate that. To answer your question, it was actually Solavirum who brought up the vote as sort of an evidence, if you remember:

• I did a bad thing in 2018, though a lot of have changed since and my knowledge about the topic is now in a better shape. I don't deny the Armenian genocide. There was a meta case about AzWiki in 2019, it was about the genocide denial, and the article concerning it having "so-called" in its title. In the same period, AzWiki users proposed to re-add "so-called" to the genocide article, where I opposed the proposal [15]

Later you stated this, hence I actually decided to give the crucial context, since neither of you did (I also don't speak Azeri, I clicked translate on my browser, then translated some more just to be sure). Solavirum, while being a native Az speaker, never mentioned the vote context in their comment (later, they claimed it's "out of context" when questioned about it), and seeing how you yourself started defending him based on that vote, I had to clarify some things. And btw, I made sure to check the vote as soon as I saw it, but didn't comment anything even when El_C Liked their comment. It was only when it was becoming this "grand" evidence of Solavirum "going against Armenian genocide denial on azwiki at great personal risk" that I was like ok, this definitely needs context.

Btw, I don't know whether you're biased in favor of Azerbaijan or not, I've personally never seen such evidence, so I never accused you of that. I only stated that you may have bias in regard to Solavirum specifically, which you also said yourself, and again I appreciate the honesty. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 06:05, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ZaniGiovanni: I didn't click his diff. I was remembering the move Solavirum did. Make sense? –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 16:18, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, glad I was able to provide context. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 16:30, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the in-depth explanation, ZaniGiovanni. I'm also firmly against genocide denial, which I think my record amply reflects (for example, the log for WP:GS/UYGHUR has 4 entries, all by me). But I'm also a sucker for redemption arcs. And any hints of CHILDPROTECT issues, those always boil my blood (though, obviously, I'm not in the position to verify whether that had really happened here and to what extent).

Anyway, my view for some time now has been that a full AA3 case is long overdue. But, of course, there's no guarantees that the Committee will accept such a case. But, I'd contact ARBCOM privately first, anyway, to at least get a sense of what should and should not be mentioned.

Also, I realize WP:T&S might have a bit of a bad rep on the project (especially following the spectacular stonewalling of WP:FRAMGATE), but, in my experience, they are dedicated professionals, so I wouldn't fault anyone if they were to choose that avenue (though, personally, I'd recommend the Committee over T&S). HTH. Best wishes, El_C 08:20, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I’ll act according to your suggestion. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 16:30, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:Ravenbeast appears to have a problem. On their talk page:

• "Are you Iranian?" Ravenbeast (talk) 21:20, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
• "I think you just paid attention to books that you read in Norway in first grade if you guys in Norway pay attention to Iranians and do not call us terrorists." Ravenbeast (talk) 21:26, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Your thoughts? --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:08, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked indefinitely. Kansas Bear, I don't have thoughts (I don't mean about this, but in general), just the one (thought). El_C 08:29, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Thank you for handling the request. Could you let extended confirmed users edit? I have edited Wikipedia for some time, and this new user is putting unsourced statements, or statements that are not in the sources in the article. I have tried to talk in talk page, but this user is not cooperative. I can detail each change but it would be a pain. For example, this "The other remaining professors preferred joining the multidisciplinary Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne University. " added in the lede is false, the sources say they went to a several other universities. Thanks. --Ransouk (talk) 13:48, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, Ransouk, but you don't get an advantage in a dispute for having a longer tenure than an opponent, and I can't intervene in content matters per m:Wrong version, anyway. Your protection request read, in part, no discussion in talk page (diff) — but you haven't used the talk page, either! So, you probably should follow your own advise, make your case on the article talk and go from there. Good luck. El_C 14:14, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Just for the record, I did use the talk page, and at the time of my request, the new user had reverted without answering in talk page. --Ransouk (talk) 14:18, 21 February 2022 (UTC) He by the way, reverted using an IP address and then their account. --Ransouk (talk) 14:18, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ransouk, next time, can you please just link to the thing in question (Paris 2 Panthéon-Assas University)? It's literally a couple of key strokes. I answered over 40 RfPP requests today. Have mercy. Anyway, the discussion on the article talk page looks like it's ongoing, so I'm not sure why you'd say without answering in talk page. They've posted to the talk page, multiple times. So, maybe give a good faith chance for the discussion to mature...? About editing logged out: that may well have been by accident. El_C 14:32, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok! I said at the time of the request, they indeed intervened in talk page afterwards. --Ransouk (talk) 14:41, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We all are volunteers here. Tuhirere (talk) 17:59, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Even if you were a volunteer (if), we are not the same kind of volunteer. El_C 18:16, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well that escalated quickly. Talk about good riddance. Celestina007 (talk) 18:45, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

it's also at ANI and... everywhere. I wish there were a range block since I'm tired of whack a mole. Star Mississippi 23:09, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks guys. Personally, I recommend following the example of a great hero of modern times (no timestamps!): My name ___ is James Randal, concerned citizen who keeps police —and vaccines, they're all con(voy)nected!— in check. First, gently, through mostly peaceful means. But if that fails, there's always a ladder (of mass destruction). The more you k. 🍔 🍟 El_C 23:48, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ah! There’s that vintage El_C's irreplicable humor I can’t seem to get enough of.

Star Mississippi, my thinking is, evoking a range block, is usually a last resort predominantly used when the damage being done within a specific range has become abysmal, take (LTA's) for example. Accurately calculating a range block is even more draining as it requires surgical precision as the slightest error in (insert relevant /) could see thousands of good faith editors or potential good faith editors affected. Celestina007 (talk) 00:24, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're undoubtedly correct. Hoping with their favorite targets semi'ed, they'll get bored of trolling the noticeboards. I'm undoubtedly too optimistic. Star Mississippi 00:29, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly, what is this deputy Crystal Clear bs?! Bring back 4T! Though she does have a stylish moustache now, so I gotta give props (begrudgingly). El_C 00:32, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In the last couple of days I've gotten several emails from parties associated with both sides of the dispute (including one today). My request is as follows: please stop emailing me about AA2 for the foreseeable future. I don't really want to be put in that position atm, so on-wiki only for the time being. Thank you. El_C 13:24, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can I send you an email about an exciting business opportunity? See, my uncle was the Premier of Nigeria, and he just passed away, leaving me $27,000,000, but I don't have a bank account to put it in... ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:27, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As long as there's a free toaster, I'm in! El_C 13:40, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Will they convert it to Popeyes gift cards? You can bribe Drmies with those. --Kansas Bear (talk) 13:43, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

None of the Popeyes in my area have crawfish anymore! Damn Pawndemic. El_C 13:54, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello.Please Protect this article from editing. Users add incorrect information and change it as desired. Check out these resources about this dam:

• https://www.sid.ir/en/Journal/ViewPaper.aspx?ID=849890
• https://aquadocs.org/handle/1834/13891
• https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Zarrinehrud%2C-Iran-Fluctuation-in-density-of-in-dam-Ahmadi-Azary/94debe477d57c145a4f7b4fe5af653d13f40422e

User Khabat4545 adds incorrect information. You can see the Persian article.tnx Masoud bukani (talk) 18:41, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked indefinitely. Semi-protected for a period of 3 weeks, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. El_C 08:42, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@El_C Thank you. Please keep an watchlist on the article. I hope the sabotage is over. Masoud bukani (talk) 08:49, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, Masoud bukani, but I haven't looked at my +100K watchlist in like a year, so that's probably not gonna happen. El_C 09:03, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To answer your question on my page creation protection proposal here, it was because I didn't know that that article in particular had not been created before, while the others had. I just kind of randomly picked it. The proposal got declined, though, so that's kind of irrelevant now. Just wanted to let you know. InterstateFive (talk) - just another roadgeek 00:45, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Right, but how would singling out that one red link example article make sense when all the other ones would be left un-attended? Anyway, thanks for following up. El_C 08:45, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Precious

Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

🎈 Nice! When I get to 50, we'll throw a party. 🎈 El_C 09:06, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You'll need someone else to remind you, - I stop at 10. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:27, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Never say die! El_C 14:36, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

?? I said I stop the reminders at 10. The pic gets too large, and you then see it's not in focus. Today's 10 here, with sentiment. - stand and sing, one hour listening, title song Prayer for Ukraine. - Where did the frozen creek go? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:53, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It has been revived! Well, my monitors keeps getting bigger and bigger over the years, so maybe that'll solve it (that's how it works, right?). Nice music, soothing. RIP Jerome Kohl. El_C 00:24, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, revival much needed! - See my talk today: could you translate Prayer for Ukraine to Hebrew, perhaps? (after I expand, will let you know) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:22, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fer sure. What, like, for the Hebrew wiki? In any case, I mostly do Hebrew-to-English translations (no Hebrew keyboard support). El_C 18:02, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

February songs

February songs

frozen

I managed two more days in pics - celebrating today 10 years DYK and 4 years of TFA for Bach's cantata Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin, BWV 125, written for today's feast day. The image was taken in memory. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:47, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Could you interest me in an alley bridge of stray cats? (Rhetorical: the answer is yes, a thousand times, yes!) El_C 14:55, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I like my talk today (with Biller a bit longer, and even explaining how it works), and managed to picture two more vacation days, with one more cat - Could you please add Hebre to Psalm 5? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:39, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

7777 complete. El_C 12:44, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, taken with thanks. Psalm 6 next please, once you have time. Today, I decorated my talk with a Bach cantata. I heard it last year when missing RexxS began, and "not letting go" was a theme. - I uploaded the rest of the vacation pics. On my talk: Interesting new piece heard, look for "Hebrew". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:32, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

my joy - more on my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:52, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

#6 *** Cat on wall! *** Your oldids are as un-diffy as always, but nice: intense Mendelson, soaring Bach — Like. El_C 10:50, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

un-diffy meaning what, please? - Valentine's Day edition, with spring flowers and plenty of music, - the most gorgeous spring bouquet was from you, though, still fresh on my talk! - Psalm 11 please, whenever convenient for you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:15, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A dear friend added the flower categories to that bouquet! - I did my share for Psalm 11, finally. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:12, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Missed comments as per usual. NP, I'll do 11 once I finish clearing the backlog @WP:RFPP/I. El_C 10:15, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

11  Done. El_C 10:43, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Kora Pakhi (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Semi-protection: Persistent IP sockpuppetry from User:Blogs19 by spamming 'Susovan Sonu Roy' with false/user generated refs. For further details one may check the SPI archive. I requested at WP:RfPP but it was not responded. In the mean time they are coming back. Thanks 2402:3A80:1A42:458A:1827:2FE1:19E4:B584 (talk) 11:09, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected for a period of 2 months, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Well, this is a weird one (as far as WP:PROMO goes, I guess). El_C 14:47, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please go through the discussions below will make you clear

• Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Blogs19/Archive#15_January_2022
• Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Blogs19/Archive#19_January_2022_2

Thanks for the help 2402:3A80:1A40:8583:5CB9:E818:7B59:F566 (talk) 14:54, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Clear isn't exactly the word I'd use... But at least I might have I gotten Liz's answer, from the past: This case is very confusing with editors creating multiple accounts, editing logged out as well and signs of paid editing [...] Liz Read! Talk! 20:16, 21 January 2022 (UTC) El_C 15:04, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Note: Above IP is an LTA User:Amkgp see the SPI Archives and you get to know about this IP.

And Also see this request by that IP to create an Article about that actor. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anachroliz#Article_request

 Note: See this link https://g.co/kgs/hDJf8z the Above LTA User:Amkgp wants to Spam this actor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4060:2e16:c0a2::58c8:520b (talk • contribs)

I'm not clicking that link, what is that? Also, why is it that you know how to use the note template (twice for some reason) but not sign your user name? Anyway, the weirdness continues... Sorry, both of you, I don't really care that much to get into the weeds of... whatever this is. El_C 16:31, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's a google search for Susovan Sonu Roy. Remind me never to think about being an admin. I already didn't want to, but no thanks to all this. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:36, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@El C: Yes your are correct this link is about that Actor that Above LTA IP User:Amkgp wants to spam. 2409:4060:2e16:c0a2::58c8:520b (talk) 10:39, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ScottishFinnishRadish, g.co/k — good url.

IP, that's good, because I also feel correct. El_C 17:16, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• @El C: Thanks I'm always here ... The LTA IP User:Amkgp Everytime removing the cast unknowingly from that series Korapakhi aslo the actor cast in that series and aslo have the presence. So don't need to protect that page.2409:4060:2e16:c0a2::58c8:520b (talk) 11:14, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unrelated, but you can slap down Vrocchio Brocco. Gamed autoconfirmed, now harassing another user. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:36, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GreatTime20202 too please. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:53, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

13:52, 23 February 2022 El C talk contribs block blocked GreatTime20202 talk contribs with an expiration time of indefinite (account creation blocked, email disabled, cannot edit own talk page) (Abusing multiple accounts) (unblock — Yes, I win! El_C 17:55, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well.. Well... how about.. you just go fuck off then!! I blame my ping. Bad ping, normally I get nothing but headshots. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:57, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You got preempted, it happens. Try to eat that L gracefully... Also, learn to fuckin' indent! El_C 18:01, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I use the reply tool, so I suggest you tell the WMF to learn to indent. That's fully on them. Funny how that whole thing started right after I said I didn't want to be an admin. That's the one time it would be handy, cutting some shit like that out before it gets out of hand. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:03, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reply link's for the weak. El_C 18:10, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I do enough mobile editing on talk pages that won't load, or bog down my browser where reply link or discussion tool, or whatever it is, is the only real way to add annoying comments and bad jokes. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:13, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

From WP:REPLYTOOL: The Reply tool currently only works in desktop views (not the Mobile Frontend view or via the Mobile Apps) — I guess you showed them! El_C 18:18, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't use the mobile site on my phone, are you fucking bonkers?! I use the desktop site, and with all of the fancy add-ons and scripts and crap I can install in common.js I can even deny edit requests while my wife is trying to talk to me at dinner. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:21, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A desktop site? Okay snowflake. I use a gaming pc. El_C 18:27, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I do all my real editing on the Sega Dreamcast web browser, or my WebTV. That's what inspired me to write Shit flow diagram. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:31, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Respect. El_C 18:33, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• @El C: Kora Pakhi (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) hey, Are you going to unprotect this page ? 2409:4060:2e16:c0a2::58c8:520b (talk) 11:37, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  And back to having no interest in ever being an admin. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:09, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bobby, good to see ya, son! El_C 18:09, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Remarkably apt. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:14, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Heads up that I started an SPI on the user just as you blocked them: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Vrocchio Brocco Singularity42 (talk) 17:57, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, there is a bit of disagreement between me and another editor on the page Economy of Pakistan. The user is insistent on adding a figure of 435 billion dollars for nominal GDP, his rationale stemming from this article [16] and specifically from the paragraph

Quote: "Dr Rashid Amjad, former vice-chancellor of the Pakistan Institute of Development Economics (PIDE) and a member of the government’s economic advisory group, sounded optimistic and talked of a spike in investment while advising one and all to avoid paying heed to speculations of the naysayer.

“Rebasing was long overdue and though new sectors, like IT and food delivery, have been added, it still underestimates the real size of the national economy which to my mind is at least 25-30pc larger."

Since the most recent nominal GDP listed by the Pak Government is 347 billion, he did a 1.25 multiplication on that figure giving him 435 billion, despite the 435 billion figure not being explicitly mentioned within the article nor is it in any other source/report/article.

Proof of this: [17] and also [18]

Surely this constitutes WP:Original Research, and no other "Economy of country" wikipedia page has implemented a figure like this based off a quote from an article, they're all based off published data from accredited organizations like the IMF, World Bank, or government reports.

Can you please provide your opinion? Thank you. IIBxtrerII (talk) 20:50, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) @IIBxtrerII: Not El C, but a user that may possibly help with this. Seems like Hercules298 is edit warring (about the WP:OR, certainly) and this is likely this is WP:OR, since it is not stated in the article. El C, I hope you don't mind me stalking your talk page. Severestorm28 01:39, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked – for a period of 60 hours for WP:EW. Yes, looks like WP:SYNTH, but I'd still rather there would be an attempt at a dialogue, though they do need to use a talk page, of any kind, which they have never done. Still, WP:BITE restrains me from taking further action at this time. @IIBxtrerII and Severestorm28: courtesy pings. El_C 07:33, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's going to be a problem–especially if the user resumes edit-warring. Severestorm28 21:42, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See also: User:El C/Songs from new lands, User:El C/Songs from the homeland

A blast from the past! (circa 2002). El_C 08:40, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Longing for Home (circa 2008). El_C 11:34, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For when just plain Distractions are afoot. El_C 16:54, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Spinning over simple things. El_C 08:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oceanic feeling

Everyone is Everyone (and Everything is Everything). El_C 23:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lyrics:

(Intro) Somehow I found myself here today Awakened to these thoughts and feelings Or an oceanic sense of lucid dreaming? A strange sort of spherical sensation With an overwhelming sense of apprehension An emptiness that thunders out From beyond the mind's horizon So far beyond our reach Where consciousness coalesces Like the billowing loom of thunder clouds The streaming runs of thought goes 'Round and 'round and 'round Till the dancing funnels of wind touch down And the earth bows down in reverence Lest it should be torn to pieces And blown into oblivi-essence And all who live will run and hide And do what we’ve done since the dawn of time Everyone flees from the cyclone winds of One's own mind But if one day we should stand on the canyon’s edge Peer out through the beating rain, the pounding wind You'll find that everyone is everyone And everything is everything (Verse one) Open up Your hearts and minds 'Cause I remember Nothing One day now It all falls down But love must keep on Loving So start the show Here we go (Chorus) Dark to light The day from night A roll of a mountain A rip in the sky Turning the dust to flesh And ashes to breath A pull of a muscle A pin in the eye An initial spark To get this heart of mine pumping And another To get these feet of mine running But sadly they've just taken me To a place Where all is devoid Of your embrace So baby now we're falling Baby now you're falling Baby yeah, yeah Baby now we're falling, baby yeah Tripping and tumbling Flipping and fumbling Flowing on the rivers of sadness That have been forever rumbling But from dawn until now Of all the paths that I could have gone down Of all the valleys That I could have been flowing through In spite of all the chaos And all that has come between us How is it I still find myself Here with you (Outro) So somehow we find ourselves here today A feeling in this oceanic sense of lucid dreaming A strange sort of spherical sensation An emptiness that thunders out From beyond the mind's horizon And all of us, we run and hide Do what we've done since the dawn of time Peering out through the beating rain The pounding wind Everyone is everyone And everything is everything

Serrado. El_C 23:33, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Live with Me. El_C 23:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

River Man. El_C 00:05, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Memories of Spain

Tomatito & Michel Camilo (2000)

Hooni (2012)

Olivier Castellat (2010)

Stevie Wonder (2008 live)

Gary Valenciano (2017 vocals)

Chick Corea and Return to Forever (1973 original) / Live performance (date unknown, but laterer)

El_C 23:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Chick and Hiromi my 2p. regards. -Roxy the sycamore. wooF 16:20, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Resting: a compilation

Flite — El_C 10:06, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Void — El_C 15:01, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What Is This — El_C 18:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WhipTail — El_C 10:53, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tell Me Where — El_C 10:03, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing Nice — El_C 22:25, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Posição — El_C 10:05, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Quiet Nights — El_C 10:08, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Feel Free — El_C 02:02, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Limmertz (Hello, guitar! Hello, Good Waves) — El_C 10:11, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Que Se Sepa — El_C 10:14, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mina Do Condominio — El_C 10:04, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On Sight — El_C 10:06, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The return of Remix surfing

Be Honest — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wade in the Water — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Summertime Ride — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This Thing — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Barrio — El_C 16:51, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I'll be Tracer... — El_C 16:42, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

O Mary Don't You Weep — El_C 11:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love Intersection — El_C 18:52, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Inside — El_C 05:46, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cosmix — El_C 15:42, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Let Me In — El_C 15:11, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Find You — El_C 13:23, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bossa 31 — El_C 16:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recado Bossa Nova — El_C 13:01, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just The Two Of Us — El_C 00:56, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unless You Love Me — El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A New Born Day — El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Inspiration Zone El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Elektric City — El_C 13:50, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kiss from a Rose — El_C 06:22, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Golden — El_C 09:13, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mozalounge — El_C 20:47, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorrow — El_C 13:57, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Be With You — El_C 14:06, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Everybody Knows — El_C 10:42, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Butterfly — El_C 01:14, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Guilty Pleasure — El_C 09:13, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Bossa — El_C 15:27, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Legend — El_C 18:40, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Who — El_C 05:41, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Losing My Way ^{London (2019)} — El_C 15:05, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love Forever — El_C 16:20, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Brother to Brother — El_C 01:48, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

'Round Midnight — El_C 06:03, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Close Your Eyes — El_C 18:13, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar

Whipping Post→Mountain Jam — El_C 23:02, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Into the Sun — El_C 14:36, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

April — El_C 14:50, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Desire And The Comforter — El_C 04:32, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fire on the Mountain — El_C 12:51, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A Go Go — El_C 14:33, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Broken Promised Land — El_C 15:18, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mediterranean Sundance / Rio Ancho — El_C 18:56, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Eternity's Breath, Pt. 1, Pt. 2 — El_C 21:37, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Say the Brother's Name — El_C 22:16, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Drifting — El_C 22:46, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Epic — El_C 05:19, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Little Wing — El_C 13:14, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bold As Love — El_C 13:32, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Moonlight Sonata (3rd Movement), Tina S ^{Dr.Viossy — El_C 16:44, 28 July 2021 (UTC)}[reply]

Reba, Brother, Glide, Rift — El_C 22:08, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How Insensitive (Wes Montgomery), Pat Martino, Grant Green — El_C 02:35, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

White Rabbit — El_C 13:00, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Telegraph Road — El_C 21:47, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yours Is the Light — El_C 23:59, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Burning Bridges → Mudmen — El_C 13:42, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

16/16 — El_C 03:25, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Achilles Last Stand — El_C 12:07, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

La Grange — El_C 03:05, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

White Room — El_C 00:26, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tupelo (Albert King, Pops Staples, Steve Cropper), JLH — El_C 00:49, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Soul — El_C 03:06, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My Inspiration — El_C 12:51, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Our Spanish Love Song — El_C 20:36, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Change of Life — El_C 02:07, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reunion — El_C 12:59, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Montevideo — El_C 02:01, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recado Bossa Nova — El_C 02:20, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Treacherous Cretins (studio), Copenhagen (1979) — El_C 12:08, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Arabia→Hasta Siempre, Comandante→Arabia — El_C 20:59, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dark Star — El_C 16:42, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tangled Up in Blue — El_C 02:27, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Face to Face (masks save lives) — El_C 13:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Bossa — El_C 22:26, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Under the Milky Way — El_C 12:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wish You Were Here (studio), Pulse — El_C 02:30, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Albert's Shuffle, His Holy Modal Majesty — El_C 14:09, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cārukeśī, Sunset Road (studio) / Sunset Road (Live Art) — El_C 09:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gimme Shelter — El_C 17:02, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Great Gig in the Sky (Pulse) — El_C 20:09, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Eyes of The World — El_C 03:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Morning Dew — El_C 14:26, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Sky → Kind of Bird — El_C 18:23, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm Troubled → Been All Around This World — El_C 14:52, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

While My Guitar Gently Weeps (JHB) — El_C 14:24, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

La Sirena — El_C 12:01, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Landlady — El_C 12:58, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dope-A-Licious — El_C 00:09, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Air

Unveiled — El_C 15:36, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Portia — El_C 23:55, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

El Niño — El_C 00:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jungle Strut — El_C 09:06, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dialogos → San Lazaro — El_C 16:42, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love Has Come Around — El_C 13:07, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In a Sentimental Mood — El_C 14:20, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Rondo à la Turk — El_C 22:06, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

La Fiesta — El_C 10:54, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, It Has No Chance (etc.) — El_C 12:47, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Skin — El_C 13:13, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Manhã de Carnaval — El_C 21:22, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dawn: Dawn Is A Feeling — El_C 11:22, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In My Own Way — El_C 19:24, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Caged Bird — El_C 10:36, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Around the Bend — El_C 15:56, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

House of the Rising Sun — El_C 00:25, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Prism #1 — El_C 11:41, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Water

Deep down → Secret Blue — El_C 18:19, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Familiar — El_C 05:54, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Feel It All Around — El_C 11:28, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What If This Storm Ends? — El_C 18:34, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Promise — El_C 23:27, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Breathless — El_C 09:56, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Waves — El_C 17:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Power of Love → Vision is a Naked Sword — El_C 00:04, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Running Away — El_C 11:45, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On a Clear Day (You Can See Forever) — El_C 23:37, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jack-A-Roe — El_C 11:16, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fall songspam

All Along the Watchtower — El_C 04:10, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh My God! — El_C 00:25, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Poetry — El_C 12:05, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Paroles, paroles ("Words, words") — El_C 02:02, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ebatule — El_C 14:25, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Europa (Earth's Cry Heaven's Smile) — El_C 00:34, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Booty Step — El_C 11:17, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gymnopédie No. 1 → Arabesque No. 1 — El_C 10:31, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Raat Ne Main Baandhi Chhe — El_C 15:34, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reza, Meu Bem — El_C 23:13, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Because — El_C 12:30, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Noite Longa — El_C 18:03, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Voce Me Apereceu — El_C 05:27, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lodger → It Starts When We Disappear — El_C 15:50, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One More Day — El_C 00:17, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sing Song Kitty → Bonaparte's Retreat — El_C 11:33, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Girls Love Kehlani → Table El_C 01:46, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kkwy — El_C 01:11, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Convoy — El_C 15:43, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Black Water (studio) → Live (1974) — El_C 08:53, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Summertime → The House of the Rising Sun — El_C 13:40, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bossa Esfera — El_C 13:06, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Down Man — El_C 13:36, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The High Road — El_C 02:42, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Found You — El_C 14:16, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Quero ver — El_C 01:22, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Raag Gawati (Dhan Dhan Bhag Hamare) — El_C 17:11, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I Adore You — El_C 13:55, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Angola Anthem — El_C 18:40, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dopesnotfunkae — El_C 21:26, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Descarga for Tito — El_C 18:28, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Positive Notions — El_C 02:10, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One — El_C 14:06, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Secret Sun — El_C 21:58, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Back Where It All Begins — El_C 14:08, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Riflessività — El_C 03:25, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Title 1 → 2 → 3 → 4 — El_C 16:39, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tudo Que Você Podia Ser — El_C 13:54, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Necessary Discrepancy — El_C 13:21, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Way Star — El_C 09:09, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lament — El_C 15:09, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely Day — El_C 14:00, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Alter Ego — El_C 11:48, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

עמוד האש — El_C 13:24, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Won't Pray Adagio → Angel's Serenade — El_C 20:25, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Distance — El_C 18:10, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Toxic — El_C 12:58, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the Man Who Loves You → Poor Places — El_C 07:09, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Money Trees (original) → Sembari Edit → DJ Dahi & DJ Rahki: Sample masters — El_C 20:19, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Creation & Destruction — El_C 14:50, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fuck the System — El_C 22:56, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Esperar Pra Ver — El_C 10:13, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New Coat Of Paint — El_C 12:04, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Ecstasy of Gold — El_C 13:25, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One Way — El_C 13:52, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A Little Less Conversation — El_C 15:16, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Power in the Darkness — El_C 18:01, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

תמונה → Guitar — El_C 15:12, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Smokestack Lightning — El_C 11:42, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ann River, Mn → Bibio Remix — El_C 10:43, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mirror Temple — El_C 01:37, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Zoiks — El_C 15:24, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tuyo — El_C 14:56, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Exogenesis: Symphony Pt. 1 (Overture) — El_C 13:54, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lotus Land → A Lotus On Irish Streams — El_C 12:02, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Romance del Diablo — El_C 13:23, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Enemy → (Worlds 2021 version → Radio edit → Orchestral/instrumental) → Guns for Hire → Goodbye — El_C 10:39, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Floral Fury — El_C 18:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Waking Up → VIP Extended Mix — El_C 10:00, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Solução Edit — El_C 13:30, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

אפילו דקה → Trem das Onze — El_C 14:13, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Knives Out — El_C 16:23, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Child in Time — El_C 01:16, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Free Bird (extended studio) — El_C 12:09, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody Speak → Nobody Move — El_C 11:53, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Be Alright (Live at One Love Manchester) — El_C 11:39, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Victory Theme (SHADOWFOX2 Remix) → Funk Fiction Remix — El_C 14:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Everywhere at the End of Time (Nexpo 4-min summary) → Full album (6.5 hours) — El_C 02:14, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Intimidated — El_C 15:00, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Seoul — El_C 11:24, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fiona — El_C 14:52, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sun — El_C 14:18, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Parole parole — El_C 15:10, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Breathe (2 AM) (Live) — El_C 13:11, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dodole — El_C 16:57, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sacred Moment → Ammonia Clouds — El_C 11:56, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Enemy (guitar heavy) — El_C 11:17, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Every Day Is Exactly the Same (Acoustic cover) → Sam Fog vs. Carlos D Mix — El_C 12:00, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

After You — El_C 16:06, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Estate — El_C 11:07, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Prelude → Victory Fanfare (Evil Needle X OriJanus Remix) — El_C 13:51, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Winter Nights

Winter Nights (full album): Greensleeves → Inverno — El_C 05:05, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ready To Fly — El_C 13:42, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sunny (Papik w Wendy Lewis) → Francesco Cofano Remix → w Peter De Girolamo (instrumental) → Bobby Hebb original — El_C 10:24, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Crazy — El_C 05:13, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Crazy — El_C 20:26, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Hanukkah Waltz →Christmas Oratorio (BVW 248 #41, Aria (tenor)) — El_C 14:15, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Since I've Been Loving You — El_C 21:49, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lupin — El_C 02:01, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Une Sulased → Kiik Tahab Kindaid — El_C 18:47, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Star Spangled Banner — El_C 00:40, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wonderland — El_C 10:48, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Souffles H (Souffle Your Wig) — El_C 17:35, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2 Hearts Together (Absolute Contrast) — El_C 10:20, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Este Amor — El_C 17:47, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Samba De Luar — El_C 11:53, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can't Hide Love — El_C 03:19, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nice & Slow — El_C 12:32, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Living For The Night — El_C 13:05, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In The Morning — El_C 06:45, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nos Vida — El_C 20:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

One Dream — El_C 12:04, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Secret of the Forest (Flite) → Jordan Chin → Contraband Reloaded → Kara Comparetto — El_C 07:06, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Grand Central Boogie — El_C 22:04, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No Mercy → Instrumental — El_C 01:20, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delight → Slow Down El_C 05:24, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Head Over Heels → Sowing the Seeds Of Love — El_C 13:44, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Surrender — El_C 10:32, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No Stress →Get Down → Human Nature → Dreamy → Flowers — El_C 11:40, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Well-Tempered Clavier, Prelude 1 in C Major (BWV 846) — El_C 10:18, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concerto No. 2 in F Minor, Op. 21: I. Maestoso — El_C 23:10, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I Put A Spell On You — El_C 09:47, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

High Tide — El_C 02:00, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

פרדי על הבוקר — El_C 07:41, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Decisions (AM Intro) → You Could Be (ft. George Riley) → Quest Select (AM Outro) — El_C 15:32, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Slavery Days → I And I Survive — El_C 12:29, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dare — El_C 16:19, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kiss from a Rose (Heidi Jutras) → Joe McBride → Trinití → David Simmons, Jr. — El_C 16:00, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kiss from a Rose (studio version) → Rick explains (feat. Seal) — El_C 13:18, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Crazy — El_C 15:05, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deepstar — El_C 11:20, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All By Myself (Glee) → w David Foster — El_C 15:29, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infralow — El_C 13:42, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jericho — El_C 12:11, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I Guess You Get What's Coming — El_C 18:10, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed (acoustic, live 1992) → Studio version → Fillmore East, 1971 — El_C 15:58, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Open Up → Open Up (Reimagined) — El_C 00:03, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Me In Mind — El_C 11:47, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yellow Moon (w John Hiatt & Herbie Hancock) — El_C 01:01, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

True Faith — El_C 16:00, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

בא אלייך בלילה El_C 14:41, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Theme That Got Left in the Car — El_C 10:38, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lotus Feet → India — El_C 10:07, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Revival — El_C 00:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unfuckwitable — El_C 09:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Breathing — El_C 11:27, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Prune Gang Revival Tour → Darkseid / FULL (Soundcloud) — El_C 05:14, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Chris Hedges: "The Meaning of Christmas" (December 27, 2020). El_C 23:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ordinary Things: "The Evil Business of 2021" (December 31, 2021). El_C 14:21, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry, everyone, with very few exceptions, I will not be accepting any new requests for administrative intervention on my talk page for the foreseeable future. In the meantime, enjoy the music! El_C 18:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Now also introducing Buck Flower, security guard (challenging times ahead!). El_C 12:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So much good music! River Man in particular is always a favourite of mine. Jr8825 • Talk 19:02, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

//bows El_C 12:39, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I see that you blocked 182.93.4.83. I have noticed an edit war at Golden triangle (universities), see Talk:Golden triangle (universities)#C9 has been replaced by Double First Class Universities, do you think that 182.93.4.83, 45.195.58.233, Ggg333ghjkl and Ffflixxx are all related? TSventon (talk) 10:33, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I dunno, maybe...? Is the content of their edits similar? Is the content of their edits disruptive? El_C 14:57, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They have collectively replaced C9 League with Double First Class University Plan on several pages such as Russell Group, Golden triangle (universities), SKY (universities) and TU9 repeatedly without going to a talk page. The content may be fine, but I was wondering if it rang any alarm bells with you. If not, I have now started a conversation. TSventon (talk) 15:21, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I don't know what those things are. Let me know if there's problems. El_C 15:24, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

at UTRS appeal #55186. Thanks, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:17, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I can't opine there, so I'll opine here, instead. In my opinion, it is always worth taking the time to wrap a cheeseburger that you made at home in aluminum foil for, at bare minimum, five to ten minutes before enjoying. The act of wrapping any sandwich goes a long way to enhancing the flavor, but for hot sandwiches with cooked meat it's even more important, as it gives the juices time to cool and settle back into the meat. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:21, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

too true. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:39, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No. But, if you can keep an eye on their talk page, you can restore TPA. So long as nobody pings or contacts me about this, I'm good. Any admin should feel free to adjust my block as they see fit, including by lifting it outright. Which, if so, hopefully, at the very least with the original reasoning for the block (gross incompetence) being addressed. Otherwise, I fear it'll just be more: let my uncle out of jail! NOW! He's a good guy! El_C 14:41, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey El C, letting you know that a Ukraine War-related article has come under IP vandalism, as many others since the start of the conflict, and I think it would be good if its protected against unregistered users for the time being. The article in question is Casualties of the Russo-Ukrainian War, you can confirm the vandalism via the edit history. Cheers! EkoGraf (talk) 17:07, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

K. A couple of notes, though: the lead should be updated. And the tables at #War in Donbas and #2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine strike me as counterintuitive. The totals should be at the bottom, should they not? Perhaps an infobox would be helpful, too. El_C 17:22, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, added the 2022 invasion section only a couple of hours ago and was planning to update the main lead, as well as add some paragraph info to the new section as well, later in the day. Yeah, the totals may look better at the bottom. If you got any ideas about an infobox they would be appreciated. :) EkoGraf (talk) 17:33, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I suck at the infoboxen. But I think it'd be good to have. Keep up the good work! El_C 17:41, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, you too! :) EkoGraf (talk) 18:02, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You continue to spread fake information. We have contacted Forbes and are expecting a response from them. Remove the section on personal life altogether until the issue is resolved. 188.32.157.165 (talk) 14:12, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I've hidden the section. If no correction from Forbes is forthcoming in, say, 2 months, then that section may be un-hidden. HTH. El_C 14:19, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Incident at Petrich article you have previously semi-protected against vandaslism need to have the protection reapplied. Fachidiot (talk) 15:49, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Got it, Fachidiot. El_C 16:15, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oddly enough, the PC protection wasn't even related to the current dispute, but was to stop an LTA obsessed with the number of Christians in the country. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:41, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. Yeah, that's weird. Though I didn't really look, I just saw that the page was being edited too heavily for pc to be effective (i.e. chasing revisions to excess). El_C 18:44, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The clarification request Clarification request: Palestine-Israel articles (February 2022) has been closed and archived. For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 13:43, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hehehehe thanks on Higgins, always wanted one. :D EkoGraf (talk) 17:19, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

NP. I know cutting through the fog of war is your bread and butter, so now you have Higgins: the most un/reliable source possible! Powered by magic. El_C 11:22, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In keeping with what you said here and including Worm That Turned's response, is there somewhere I can present evidence indicating the disruption throughout the AA2 area during the month of February 2022? --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:48, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kansas Bear, I don't really know what that report would look like to confidently advise. I suppose, broadly speaking, WP:AN could serve as such a forum, or you could present it in the context of a full WP:RFAR case, where, ironically, you might be told to take it to AN (maybe AE?) first. But if your arbitration case is solid in the sense of showing instances where AN/ANI/AE were unable to resolve problems in the topic area, then you could just take it straight to the Committee. HTH. El_C 11:19, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Would that be the proper venue to seek the 500/30 restriction over AA2? Not sure it would require a report, since WTT states, "..but I would certainly appreciate more thoughts from the community." Where would a poor ole Kansas boy go to post their thoughts/evidence that it could be seen/evaluated? --Kansas Bear (talk) 12:43, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I guess that'd be WP:ARCA. El_C 13:02, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]